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Posted Jul 3, 20 22:24 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

R: 3c prepaid

RF, Number 4 also makes sense. I assume a drug retailer with such nice advertising envelopes and probably a good number of clients to communicate with via mail was familiar with mail regulations and knew what they were doing.
It's just amazing how this cover and the stamp managed to retain this pristine condition after all these years!
Who could imagine that some people would meet in a message board on the internet -wait! inter what?!!- to discuss why the stamp they affixed over 160 years ago on one of their envelopes was not cancelled?! This is The Beauty of Postal History:-)

Posted Jul 3, 20 22:03 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

3c Prepaid

#4 could well be. Incidentally, the distance is about 80 miles.

Posted Jul 3, 20 21:22 by Gregory Shoults (coilcollector)

Melvin Getlan

I understand that Mel passed away a number of months ago. I was wondering if his material was going to auction and with which company. I know he had a very large collection of private perfs and a few items with Parkhurst vending machine marks. I am searching for an example of a coil vended by the Parkhurst vending machine for my exhibit.

Posted Jul 3, 20 20:59 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

3c prepaid

M - Actually, I think most likely is possibility #4:

The sender put a stamp on it in case the private individual carrying the letter decided to put it in the mail somewhere enroute, or at destination post office. The stamp allowed for all possible eventualities.

Very unusual for a private individual to have worried about Uncle Sam enforcing the regulation about prepayment or equivalent postage.

Posted Jul 3, 20 20:40 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Re: Uncancelled three cent

B. Biales. It all makes sense. Thanks a lot.

Posted Jul 3, 20 19:48 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Uncancelled three cent.

What Richard said is true.  I would like to back off and examine all the possibilities.
1) Incorrect payment of monopoly charge, as per RCF
2) Stamp added
3) Stamp pointless
I discard 2 arbitrarily.  3) goes as follows.  The stamp was put on and then an opportunity arose to send it by courtesy of Mr. Matheson at no charge.  In such case, the monopoly did not apply.  In favor of this interpretation is the phrasing of the notation, which sounds more like a private rather than express notation.  Also, and by no means definitive, is the absence of any express marking, including no rate.  It was not worth the trouble to soak the stamp off (perhaps time was short when the offer of private carriage came up).  Note however, three cents about a dollar in todays money.  (Why didn't the recipient soak it off and use it?  Such Proglifacy!
I kinda lean toward 3) but, vs 1) this is almost a matter of taste.

Posted Jul 3, 20 19:23 by Paul Dessau (paulorgantech)

Private Carriage

Was US postage required if the private carrier carried it for free, as was common in the Confederate States?

Posted Jul 3, 20 15:09 by Alexander Haimann (bastamps)

Research help needed - GB Patent Revenue Usage

Hello All,

I am looking for information on the patent revenue fee rates for the 1870s in Great Britain. I am trying to determine if an 1874 published patent application/"specifications" pamphlet which has GB patent stamps applied to its cover are supposed to be there and if the fee they pay makes sense.

If you have a Barefoot GB Revenue Catalogue or any other reference - please reach out. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Email: [email protected]

Thanks, Alex

P.S. I do appreciate how funny it may appear on the eve of our country's birthday, I am knee-deep in British revenue rates ;-)


Posted Jul 3, 20 14:19 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Re: Private Carriage

RF, Muchas Gracias!

Posted Jul 3, 20 13:58 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Private Carriage

M -  Privately carried mail was supposed to be prepaid an amount equal to the postage if sent by government mail. That is the reason for postal stationery use by expresses, and other private mail carriers like steamboats, that did not enter the mail or that was carried privately before entering the mail. Stamps served the same purpose but the law specified that postal stationery was to be used.

Posted Jul 3, 20 12:41 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

No 26 on ad cover

Had this been carried privately, why wasting the postage? Chateaugay is about 80 miles far from Ogdensburg. Any thoughts why the stamp went uncancelled or why dues were not applied if the stamp was not recognized back then?


Posted Jul 3, 20 5:04 by Julian Jones (jonesjh99)


When I was a student I worked one vacation in a Brewery in Bristol (England). At that time they still delivered barrels of beer by horsedrawn carts within the city. The men (no women then) unloading the barrels at the pubs were also known as draymen.

Posted Jul 2, 20 20:15 by David Snow (dwsnow)

19th Century transportation

In my adding Cover ID 28722 to the PhilaMercury database, I noticed that the 1859 contents referred to various RR freight charges, including "Drayage".

Not knowing what that term meant, I checked it out - see attached image of a 19th Century dray at a railroad car. Source: Steam Museum in Swindon, UK. The term drayage originally meant "to transport by a sideless cart" or dray.


Posted Jul 2, 20 14:12 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Joke of the Day

Mark Rogers, I highly doubt this was done by a professional. The script and the monogram were copied from the cover in lot 11, Siegel sale 1126. Even the 5c stamp looks fake.

Posted Jul 2, 20 13:47 by Mark Rogers (markrogers)

Joke of the Day

Is this one typical of Peter Winter, or would the source be someone else, I wonder?
There is a monogram on the front of the cover.

Posted Jul 2, 20 13:00 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Franklin, 1c

Ron C., Definitely! It is sound :-)

Posted Jul 2, 20 11:42 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

One Cent Pair


Mark nailed the plating.......suggest you get a PF for it. Is it sound?

Posted Jul 2, 20 10:50 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Franklin, 1c

Many thanks, Mark Rogers!

Posted Jul 2, 20 9:58 by Mark Rogers (markrogers)

Franklin 1c

Congratulations, they are both #5A, Ty Ib, position 4-5R1E.

edit: in case anyone's wondering - there is no evidence of re-entry at the top of either position, where it is easy to see, which makes this an easy call as not being plate 1L (#9), but, instead 1E, which it is.

Posted Jul 2, 20 9:32 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Franklin, 1c

I've been puzzled trying to identify/position this pair. Is it a 5A pair? Thoughts??


Posted Jul 2, 20 9:14 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

Joke of the day

Offered at auction in Asia!!


Posted Jul 2, 20 8:38 by Yamil Kouri (yamil kouri)

Spellman Museum Annual Postal History Symposium 2020

The eighth annual postal history symposium sponsored by the Spellman Museum of Stamps & Postal History is still on, but virtually!

We have divided it into two consecutive evenings to maximize viewership (Thursday, July 23 and Friday, July 24, 2020). This year we are partnering with the American Helvetia Philatelic Society to bring you:

Swiss Postal History

Registration is free, as always. Please register to this virtual meeting by Zoom link.


Thursday, July 23

7:00PM Opening remarks and introduction - Yamil H. Kouri, Jr.

7:15-8:00PM “Early Registered Mail from Switzerland” by Michael Peter (Wildwood, MO)

8:15-9:00PM “Postcards and Briefli - The Other Pro Juventute Collectibles” by Richard T. Hall (Asheville, NC)

9:15PM Discussion

Friday, July 24

7:00PM Opening remarks and introduction - Yamil H. Kouri, Jr.

7:15-8:00PM “The League of Nations at 100” by Greg Galletti (Mt. Airy, MD)

8:15-9:00PM “Campione D’Italia, a Geographic Anomaly” by Bruce Marsden (New Hope, PA)

9:15PM Closing remarks and discussion - see you next year!

We want to thank the help provided by the Collectors Club of New York, in particular Larry Haber and Joan Harmer, for making this event possible.

Posted Jul 2, 20 1:21 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)


Distributing Post Office

Posted Jul 1, 20 22:04 by Terence Hines (thines)

D.P.O. ?

On the cover shown, can someone tell me what the D.P.O. in the Cleveland postmark stands for?
Thank you in advance.


Posted Jul 1, 20 17:20 by Lawrence Haber (ldhaber)

Collectors Club Program July 8th

On Wednesday, July 8th, at 5:30pm EDT, the Collectors Club will be hosting another in its Virtual Philatelic Program Series. Our speaker will be Sandeep Jaiswal, his topic: “My Favorite Indian States Items”.

This will be a live, virtual, program presentation. Our program is available to the entire philatelic community. You do not have to be a member of the Collectors Club to attend.

A free virtual ticket can be obtained at our website : . We hope to see you next Wednesday.

Larry Haber The Collectors Club

Posted Jul 1, 20 16:33 by David Moore (chevelle)

Bulgarian Occupation of Romania - What is This?

David S., thanks for the response.  There is no written message on the other side so definitely philatelic in nature.  Dave

Posted Jul 1, 20 8:17 by Stephen T. Taylor (UK) (stevetayloruk)


Ken, might be a problem with your eBay authorization via eSnipe - mine expired a couple of weeks ago but eSnipe hadn't notified me. You can check after logging in to your eSnipe account, then Settings/eBay/Link to eBay. Good luck, Steve

Posted Jun 30, 20 19:49 by Ken Stach (kenstach)

Esnipe Failure...Again

Esnipe failed me again today, as I'm trying to use up my existing BidPoints. Did anyone else have a problem today?

Posted Jun 30, 20 18:45 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)


Please note, on books it is often more economical and more estetic
to buy an original copy than to download and print out


Posted Jun 30, 20 14:37 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Landsmann book

is for sale here.

Posted Jun 30, 20 14:22 by Charles E. Cwiakala ([email protected])

Imperial Censorship in Bermuda ...

A standard reference for this popular collecting field is the Collectors Club of Chicago 2006-published handbook: Intercepted in Bermuda: The Censorship of trans-Atlantic Mail During the Second World War, by Peter A. Flynn.

The digitized version of the handbook, as well as numerable others, is available from the CCC website ($9.95):

Charles E. Cwiakala
Collectors Club of Chicago

Posted Jun 30, 20 14:00 by Steven M. Roth (inland waterways)


Thanks for the heads-up.

Just bought it on Amazon.


Posted Jun 30, 20 13:56 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

Thanks David....

David S.....

Thanks for the info on my cover. So locked down here I cannot get out, run around, and Shanghai some covers!!! :>))

Posted Jun 30, 20 11:20 by David Snow (dwsnow)

Bulgarian Occupation of Romania 1917

David Moore,

Here are some answers to your question below (image attached): your item is a likely philatelic registered postcard sent from Fitechti (now Fetesti), Romania 23 Dec.1917 to Sophia (Sofia), Bulgaria, arrived 5 Jan. 1918. It has nearly a complete set of overprinted Bulgarian stamps, lacking only the 5 stotinki value. The large magenta handstamp is a censorship marking, and the "97" in circle handstamp identifies the particular censor. Is there any written message on back of the card? If not, it confirms that it is philatelic.

Posted Jun 23, 20 19:55 by David Moore (chevelle)

Bulgarian Occupation of Romania - What is This?

Is this some type of receipt franked with Romania Scott Nos. 2N1, 2N3 and 2N4, with no markings on the reverse and of regular paper stock thickness?  Dave


Posted Jun 30, 20 10:51 by Phil Rhoade (rugface)

German Censor Book

It's available on Amazon. I purchased a copy this morning after Ken's post.

Posted Jun 30, 20 10:44 by Steven M. Roth (inland waterways)



Thanks. I checked all the lit dealers. None has it.

I'll keep my eye out for it on Ebay.

Posted Jun 30, 20 10:22 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Landsmann book

Steve, I bought mine on eBay. By now maybe philatelic literature dealers have stocked it, but I have not checked.

Posted Jun 30, 20 9:54 by Steven M. Roth (inland waterways)

Horst book

Where can we purchase a copy?

Posted Jun 30, 20 8:59 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

World War II German censorship

Everyone who collects this postal history should welcome the new book by Horst Landsmann, the essential parts bilingual in German and English.


Posted Jun 30, 20 8:55 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)


The cover was examined and passed by Imperial Censorship at Bermuda, and was examined by German censorship at Vienna. That seems to have been the end of its eastward transport. It was marked and returned from New York 1 December 1941.


Posted Jun 30, 20 8:54 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)


Suspension of mail during World War II did not begin with U.S. entry.

This cover was mailed 22 February 1941 to Greece, and returned to sender before the war came to these shores.

The November 28 Postal Bulletin announced "SUSPENSION OF MAIL SERVICE TO GREECE":

"Due to the present disturbed conditions abroad facilities for the onward transmission of mails for Greece dispatched from the United States since the invasion of that country is being returned to origin with the labels of the sacks endorsed 'Service Suspended'."


Posted Jun 30, 20 8:17 by Paul Dessau (paulorgantech)

Prexie longevity

Thanks Ken--I had no idea that certain values lasted so long!

Posted Jun 30, 20 7:52 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Prexie longevity

I have written on this subject many times. My article "Last of the Prexies" was in the April 1995 issue of Scott Stamp Monthly — i.e., more than 25 years ago.

My article "Late Prexies" appeared in the January 2000 issue of The United States Specialist.

The final formally announced Presidential Series issue was the dry-printed $1 Woodrow Wilson stamp, Scott 832c, released August 31, 1954, with full first day of issue honors.

The last previously unissued Presidential series stamp to be shipped was the 1½¢ Martha Washington horizontal coil stamp with MACON GA. Bureau precancel overprint in November 1960. Its usage is unknown.

The last Presidential Series stamp to be superseded by a Liberty Series successor was the 11¢ James K. Polk stamp, in service for that denomination until the 11¢ Statue of Liberty stamp was issued June 15, 1961.

The $2 Warren G. Harding stamp remained in service until the $2 Kerosene Lamp stamp in the Americana Series was issued November 16, 1978.

Other stamps that waited even longer for successors were the seldom-used middle Prexie denominations. For example, the 19¢ Rutherford B. Hayes stamp was eventually superseded by the 19¢ Sequoya stamp in the Great Americans series, issued December 27, 1980.

My article on solo uses of Prexies in this month's Linn's Stamp News includes this scarce usage, which only became possible in 1961.


Posted Jun 30, 20 6:11 by Paul Dessau (paulorgantech)

Prexie longitivity

The prexies were replaced by the Liberty series in 1954(?) Can one find many commercially used prexies from 1955-1960, or did they disappear fast?

Posted Jun 29, 20 16:46 by Richard Matta (rkmatta)

1941 RTS

Here's someone who was rather optimistic, sending a letter to German occupied Netherlands 4 days after Germany declared war on the US.


Posted Jun 29, 20 12:20 by Douglas Chapman (foodrev)


Even more evident on reverse


Posted Jun 29, 20 12:19 by Douglas Chapman (foodrev)

Scrawling on covers

I recall a few days back, someone asked about the seemingly meaningless scrawling on cover, but in period.

I have this one that makes no sense. If he was practicing to forge the name, why use the envelope to send a letter?


Posted Jun 29, 20 12:05 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Fire on the Water

Dan's exhibit is also on my website here but maybe a different version ..

Posted Jun 29, 20 11:32 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

Fire on the Water

Dan Ryterband's amazing exhibit, Fire on the Water, is now posted on the USPCS website.

Thanks Dan for sharing.

Posted Jun 29, 20 11:05 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

Return to sender

Thanks for all the feedback on my RTS cover and for posting beautiful covers.


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