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Posted Aug 4, 20 19:33 by Rafael E Perez (reperez)

Stamps on Customs Form

Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to add the back of the form. As you can see, the duties amounted for a total of $0.70 + $4.62 = $5.32, the receipt owner did the math! The explanation makes sense, but this was certainly expensive. Using an inflation calculator, $0.70 is equivalente today to $4.32.

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Posted Aug 4, 20 18:20 by Richard Matta (rkmatta)

Stamps on customs form

I believe the stamps paid the postal service fees for collecting and clearing customs duties on incoming mail. It would be in addition to the $4.62 duty shown on the form, which presumably was paid in cash. I have some other examples from that time frame, typically postage due stamps were used. You find a lot of earlier covers with fees of 10c or 15c paid by dues, but I think the charge is closer to $6 today though I don't know if they still use stamps.

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Posted Aug 4, 20 16:11 by Rafael E Perez (reperez)

Customs Form - What the postage stamps?

I recently found this item. 1973. I know is a Customs form for jewelry. However, does any know why it has $0.70 in stamps? The amount (tax?) tax collected was $4.72. I had never seen it before, guess is uncommon. Any additional help will be appreciated.

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Posted Aug 4, 20 13:35 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

PDR Update

LINKS PAGE

Currently have 13 exhibits uploaded:

#1 Trepel, Scott: A Well-Hanged Collection
#2 Handelman, David: BNA money letters
#3 Handelman, David: Return receipt in the Austrian Empire (pre GPU)
#4 Drews, Richard: Trans-Oceanic Uses of the 30 Cent U.S. Issues of 1861-1868
#5 Duffney, WIlliam: Charismatic Connecticut
#6 Duffney, William: Quaker Charity During Black '47
#7 Gutman, Michael: The Very Short Official Life of E7, the “Merry Widow"
#8 Shoults, Gregory: Washington & Franklin Coils 1910 Issue
#9 Schwartz, Mark: Boston's Use of the 1847 Issue
#10 Schwartz, Mark: The Use of Boston's "PAID in Grid" Cancels: 1851-1859
#11 Schwartz, Mark: The Postal Markings of Newbury and Newburyport, Mass. during the Stampless Period: 1755-1855
#12 Fuchs, Rainer: Iraq Railway Post Stamps, 1929 - ca. 1942
#13 Fiset, Louis: Political Prisoner's Mail from the 1848 Paris "June Days Uprising"

Posted Aug 4, 20 13:23 by george dekornfeld (docgfd)

UX5

Thank you Richard. That's way more than I was able to come up with and now that you've called it, it appears to be a fit.

Posted Aug 4, 20 12:27 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

UX5

It looks like East Dorset, Vermont to me (but I was wrong last time)

Posted Aug 4, 20 12:21 by george dekornfeld (docgfd)

UX5

I've banged my head on my computer for long enough, so I put this UX5 out here to see if anyone can decipher this postal card's intended destination.

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Posted Aug 4, 20 12:03 by steven frumkin (sfrumkin)

Omaha WSP Show

Omaha Philatelic Society website indicates that this year's show, scheduled for September 12-13, has been canceled.

Posted Aug 4, 20 8:33 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

PDR 2020 Award

I  don't usually follow gold prices but this year the winner-takes-all award will be worth north of $2,000 - the same bullion gold coin I purchased for $1260 in 2018 for the PDR award.

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Posted Aug 4, 20 8:27 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

PDR Update

I have add two exhibits:

#7 from Michael Gutman and
#8 from Gregory Shoults

They are linked from page here.

Posted Aug 4, 20 6:48 by Lawrence Haber (ldhaber)

Collectors Club Program tomorrow

Just a brief reminder: tomorrow, August 5th, at 5:30pm EDT, the Collectors Club will be hosting another program.

The speaker: Behruz Nassre. The topic: postal stationery of the Qajar Persian dynasty from 1876 to 1925. This will be a live, virtual, program presentation. The program is available to the entire philatelic community. You do not have to be a member of the Collectors Club to attend.

A free virtual ticket can be obtained directly at Zoom here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/9015965416084/WN_JSGYeADmTLaAdk6uAGdeQQ.

We hope to see you tomorrow.

Larry Haber The Collectors Club

Posted Aug 4, 20 6:04 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Fake cancel?

It looks like a 1950s-1960s Pitney-Bowes postmark struck as a favor.

Posted Aug 4, 20 1:32 by David Handelman (davidh)

refugee internment

The refugees included anti-Nazi Germans and and anti-fascist Italians who were not Jewish (H-spy Fuchs being an example).

On p 73 of https://www.rfrajola.com/mercury/DHReg.pdf are two registered covers, both addressed to internees at Camp N (Farnham, Que). One is before it became a camp for friendly enemy aliens (refugees), one after. On p 111, is a registered cover to the Commandant of Camp N just before it converted.

Registered matter to Canadian internment camps is difficult to find, but from internment camps is almost impossible (I do have something, somewhere, I think it's a receipt made out to an internee for a registered letter he sent, signed by the sergeant in charge ...).

Posted Aug 3, 20 23:49 by Andrew Kupersmit (andy kupersmit)

Jewish Internment by the British during WWII

Sorry to be late to this -- Earl Kaplan had a one frame exhibit on the subject that his son sold at a Tel-Aviv Stamps auction (Yakov Tsachor) after Earl's passing about 20 years ago. I have a copy if anyone wants to see it, please contact me off board.

Here are the abridged details of their story. When Jews fled the Nazi's and came to England, the British did not know who was a refugee and who was a spy. So, they rounded all of them up and sent them to the Isle of Man via Liverpool. When the Isle of Man was overwhelmed, the British reached out to its colonies for help. Canada and Australia agreed to accept the refugees because they are massive land masses with large unpopulated areas. The first group of Jewish refugees was sent to Canada on the Arandora Star and it was sunk by German torpedo. The survivors were still sent on to Canada at a later date. Canada's camps were named Camp N, Camp I, etc. The Jews sent to Australia were interned in newly constructed desert camps in Hay and Tatura. Many of the Jews stayed in those countries when the war ended.

Posted Aug 3, 20 21:45 by Gregory Shoults (coilcollector)

Fake Cancel ???

These are often faked, opinions???

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Posted Aug 3, 20 15:44 by Richard Drews (bear427)

Highest rate

You might ask Scott Trepel to contact the owner on your behalf. Scoot is an avid researcher and writer. He has always been gracious about helping authors.

Rich

Posted Aug 3, 20 12:51 by Tony Wawrukiewicz ([email protected])

Postage Due UPU Surtax letters

Arfken's book on Large Numeral Postage Due stamps illustrated a number of UPU Surtax uses that were short paid and thus had US postage due stamps on them. I wanted examples of such uses for my US postage due exhibit. I unsuccessfully reached out to US dealers in search of such. I won't go into the details, but I finally was able to buy two beautiful examples, one from Chile, the other from Peru. Since dealers seem unaware of such uses, I thought that I would place them on the message board.

Tony

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Posted Aug 3, 20 11:51 by Richard Hilty (rhilty)

Depreciated currency highest rated

Does anyone know who owns this cover? I would like to use the image for an article. Also, I am actively buying depreciated covers.

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Posted Aug 3, 20 11:39 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Shanghai - Hong Kong by air

Not a good book, but it does seem to answer the question I raised recently.

Page 151: "The biggest fear in Pan Am's New York headquarters was the likelihood that CNAC would be caught in a war between China and Japan. Such a scenario nearly happened in 1932, when Japan bombed Shanghai. Westervelt ordered CNAC to suspend operations, but William Bond wired back: 'Consider it imperative we keep this line running . . . I'm not being insubordinate but believe your decision was merely for our safety.' Westervelt relented. Even when the Chinese military demanded the airline fly machine gun ammo from Shanghai to Peking, Bond refused, arguing CNAC must maintain neutrality as a civilian enterprise. Bond won his point and even at the height of Japan's aggression the enemy left his planes alone."

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Posted Aug 3, 20 10:52 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

PCC

Mike and Richard and all,

Yep, I agree with the analysis. My old eyes missed the May 29 date in the machine cancel. Nice item. Russ

Posted Aug 3, 20 9:40 by Mike Ludeman (mml1942)

PCC

I suggest the following sequence of events.

(1) Mailed Martinsville VA on May 29 12:30pm

(2) Arrived Fall River, MA Spec Delivery section on May 30 9:30am

(3) Delivered to someone - not addressee - at address, who added 15c stamp and brought it to PO late afternoon. Not likely returned following morning as PO would not be open at 7am.

(4) May 31 7am - CDS REC'D on reverse the next morning when PO opened.

(5) May 31 10am to Fall River Spec Delivery section

(6) Arrive NY GPO May 31 10:30pm

(7) To Radio City Sta, arrive June 1, 1:30am

(8) Out for delivery at Barbizon Hotel when Radio City Sta Spec Del section opened.

Posted Aug 3, 20 9:08 by Richard Matta (rkmatta)

PCC

Note that the PCC timestamp is about 19 hours after it left the original PO but about 18 hours before it was stamped "rec'd" at Fall River. (Then another 3 hours before the 2nd SD stamp was cancelled, presumably the time it was out for delivery, and 10 hours (by train?) to NYC). A day-and-a-half seems long for airmail, even if it did go by rail to Roanoke and multiple legs to Boston? Could it have been routed (or mis-routed) through a (military) Postal Concentration Center such as on Long Island?

Posted Aug 3, 20 8:18 by Mike Ludeman (mml1942)

PCC

Terrence:

I suspect that the marking was part of the Special Delivery process at the initial destination. The PCC could be a special delivery messenger stamp identifying the initials of the messenger, when he was given the letter to take to the address. The "497" could be the special delivery logging number assigned when given to the messenger.

When delivered, it appears that the person was not at the designated address, but someone there requested and paid for a second special delivery (with trace of what appears to be a return receipt card), and it was forwarded to New York and delivered.

Mike

Posted Aug 3, 20 8:14 by Terence Hines (thines)

PCC

Hi Russ,
Actualy, that marking is dated the 30th while the cover was first postmarked in Martinsville at 12:30pm on the 29th. So it could be a postal, and not a private, marking.

Posted Aug 3, 20 6:08 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: PCC cover

Morning Terence and all,

Interesting private marking applied to this cover the day before it entered the postal service. Unfortunately the return address does not tell us exactly who or which organization or corporations mailed this item but it must refer to some internal control or approval process this item had to go through prior to its mailing. I have seen similar but not identical markings on registered letters mailed from prisons and jails where outgoing mail is screened.

Can someone tie the return address address to its sender?

Best regards, Russ

Posted Aug 2, 20 22:12 by Terence Hines (thines)

Front of the PCC cover.

Here's the front.

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Posted Aug 2, 20 22:11 by Terence Hines (thines)

PCC?

If anyone can tell me what the PCC stands for on this cover I will greatly appreciate it.

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Posted Aug 2, 20 15:31 by george dekornfeld (docgfd)

UX7

Thank you Ken !

Posted Aug 2, 20 15:07 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

UX7

There is evidence of considerable wear and some damage (relief breaks and bends).

Posted Aug 2, 20 14:17 by george dekornfeld (docgfd)

UX7

The frame lines on 'Postal Card' are clearly broken in several places. Is this an inking issue, or is there another explanation?

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Posted Aug 2, 20 13:06 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

Why No WWII Commemoration in 2020

As Gordon asks "Where is the stamp commemorating the end of WWII?

Let's look to the past to see the events of WWII, WWI, Civil War, and Rev War to see well over 350++ commemorative stamps that the POD has issued over the years. There are many stamps for the commemoration of events (Dates, Battles, Commanders, soldiers, reporters, some weapons, etc), several times there has been an entire series of stamps created and issued for each of the wars.

Just a very few examples: the Overrun Nations series, in 1960 thru 1965 the series for Civil War. More recently the really cool WWII series of sheetlets started in 1991 (#2559) and running thru 1995 (#2981). Each had a world map in the center surrounded by 10 different stamps commemorating important events for the years 1941 thru 1945. 50 different stamps in a new and different format for the POD; commemorating the 5 years of WWII. Also the 2011 -2015 Civil War Sesquicentennial series starting with #4522 ... ending with #4981. On and on.........

In 2018 there was only one stamp about WWI, "Turning the Tide." No stamp for the end of WWI. From 2016 to date there has been no stamps, (my catalog only goes through mid-2019) for WWII, not even Pearl Harbor!

The one impossible answer to Gordon's question is "it was an oversite;" NOT! It is obvious that the decision to ignore WWII on postage stamps was material and started in 2016.

To rest my case, in June 2019, a stamp #5392 was issued to commemorate the commissioning of the Battle Ship Missouri. Yet on September 2, 2020, there will be no stamp for the Missouri. Which event was far more important than the other?

No stamp for VE Day, VJ Day............... as it it never happened. I wonder Why? Today it is not only not popular; it is suppressed.

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Posted Aug 2, 20 12:51 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

PDR Update 2

Three new exhibits added. Page of links here

Richard Drews exhibit - "Trans-Oceanic Uses of the 30 Cent U.S. Issues of 1861-1868"

And two from William Duffney:

"Charismatic Connecticut" & "Quaker Charity During Black '47"

I have to comment on the "Quaker Charity During Black '47" exhibit; the subject matter covered was completely new to me. One of the pleasures of philately!

Posted Aug 2, 20 11:02 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

PDR Update

Two exhibits from David Handleman just uploaded. Thank you David.

Page of links is here.

#2 - BNA Money Letters

#3 - Return Receipt in the Austrian Empire (pre GPU)

Three more entries await processing.

Posted Aug 1, 20 19:39 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

75 anniversary of the end of WW II

It is very surprising that the USPS is not recognizing this anniversary. We are loosing those who served during the war, our greatest generation. This is why Pearl Harbor had a major celebration for the 75th year.

I would expect that such a series of stamps would be very popular.

Posted Aug 1, 20 19:00 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

World War II 75th anniversary

Larry B,

You might be right, but I think they could have honored the World War II victors in addition to whatever today's fashion dictates. If the 80th anniversary of Bugs Bunny is a tribute worth observing, surely the solemn ceremony aboard the USS Missouri at Tokyo Bay is.

Posted Aug 1, 20 14:28 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Scott's exhibit

Very flashy visuals.  Quite creative.

Posted Aug 1, 20 14:26 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Interesting historical reference

Just the thing for the cover collector looking to doll up a letter from/to some benighted little country in the midst of chaos.

newroseandcrown.org/list-of-americas-overseas-wars-and-invasions-1-per-year-between-1798-and-1993/

Posted Aug 1, 20 13:42 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

PhilaMercury Digital Rendezvous 2020

PDR 2020 is on - I just finished the main index page here.

Thank you to Scott Trepel for the first entry ("A Well-Hanged Collection"). I have two more entries from David Handleman which I will get to as soon as possible.

I know there at least two other online exhibitions that will be available this year, APS and CCNY - I suggest the you try them all! Have fun in these dog days of a covid-19 summer.

Thank you to all past participants for your support of this project.

Posted Aug 1, 20 9:01 by Paul Dessau (paulorgantech)

Wells Fargo use of 2c Jackson entire

Thanks for all of your info David. I suspected it must be some sort of remainder.

The Wikipedia article on Hamilton Nevada shows one of the remaining traces of that town is part of the Wells Fargo building, photo attached. I should visit it and bring my cover! :-)

photo by Mark Hufstetler (Pitamakan at en.wikipedia) - Own work of original uploader.

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Posted Aug 1, 20 7:57 by David Snow (dwsnow)

Wells Fargo use 2c Jackson entire

Looking through my collection for Wells Fargo uses of 2c Jackson entires, I only found this cut square, (U142) from Roseville, California office, Leutzinger type 10-8. I am sure that there are other Wells Fargo uses out there, like yours. The example from Brentwood, Calif. sold at the Schuyler Rumsey auction is rare because that particular town marking is not listed in Leutzinger, and thus qualified as a single lot.

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Posted Jul 31, 20 22:54 by David Snow (dwsnow)

Wells Fargo use 2c Jackson entire

This is the only 1874 Plimpton issue 2c vermilion entire with Wells Fargo printed frank that I am aware of, outside of the example posted by Paul Dessau.  Image courtesy of Schuyler Rumsey Philatelic Auctions, Sale 25, lot 69. Not in my collection.

From Brentwood, Calif. office. The lot description states that it has a purple "Wells Fargo & Co. San Francisco Dec. 17, 1883" oval backstamp. Which confirms it was used during the 2c first class rate period.

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Posted Jul 31, 20 22:52 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

Internment

Thanks to all the comments and information on and off the board.

Part of history I did not know.

Posted Jul 31, 20 22:37 by David Snow (dwsnow)

Wells Fargo use 2c Jackson entire

Paul Dessau,

At the beginning of the week you posted the below cover with this question:
Common or unusual WF cover? I just acquired this cover, buying it because I have not seen one like it before. Were these made by WF, after the reduction of the regular mail rate from 3 cents to 2 cents, because they ran out of the 2 cent brown washington envelopes, or are they common but I have failed to notice them?

Answer: Not a common use. I have only seen only one other Wells Fargo use on a 1874 Plimpton issue 2c vermilion entire, which I will show in next post.

As to why Wells Fargo printed a frank on these older 2c Jackson entires, the reason is unknown. Remember, the primary use of the 2c vermilion Plimpton entires was for drop (local use) letters for post offices with carrier delivery. Intracity mail use only. See Cover ID 28741 for such a use.

Wells Fargo would normally have no reason for franking 2c envelopes prior to Oct. 1, 1883 when first class rate lowered from 3c to 2c per 1/2 ounce. Which is why you never see 1870 2c brown Reay envelopes franked by Wells Fargo, nor the earlier 1863-64 2c Black Jack postal entires for that matter.

Now lets take a closer look at your 2c entire. It has a Wells Fargo Hamilton, Nevada office oval marking (note the "HAMIL"), dated Aug. 19. It is addressed to Cherry Creek, Nevada. The Wells Fargo office in Cherry Creek was first listed in the company's directory in 1879.

I think your cover is from Aug. 19, 1884 or later, when the 2c government rate was in effect.

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Posted Jul 31, 20 22:18 by John Shepherd (tas philatelist)

Internment in Australia

Selly Meyerson order of detention.

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Posted Jul 31, 20 22:16 by John Shepherd (tas philatelist)

Internment in Australia

Selly Meyerson released 1943.

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Posted Jul 31, 20 22:14 by John Shepherd (tas philatelist)

Internment in Australia

Selly Meyerson, a German Jew and wholesaler, captured in Stafford, England. Transferred to Australia by SS Dunera, September 1940. Next of kin, wife Anny, from Flushing, Long Island, New York.

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Posted Jul 31, 20 21:31 by David Handelman (davidh)

Canadian internment

The book on internment in Canada of refugees, POWs, and others deported from UK is "Deemed suspect: a wartime blunder", by Erich Koch (himself a refugee deported to Canada), published 1985. It includes a list of as many as he could find (including my advisor), and what happened with them. Klaus Fuchs was certainly on the list, but there were extremely few who turned out badly.

Posted Jul 31, 20 21:10 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Lansdown

The Lansdown I know of is in Loudoun county not Prince William (although they are adjacent to each other).

If you've ever flown in to Dulles airport... that is Loudoun county.

Posted Jul 31, 20 19:05 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

UK interment

Louis -- No Commies?  One of the most famous and important internees was Klaus Fuchs -- it took a while for the Brits to figure out that he was hard core anti-Nazi.  But...
Not quite internees, but some of the Czech leftists in Sheffield c 1940 had to have a local to make sure that they were not up to mischief.  My wife, then a teenager got the job (through the Quakers).  They knew about wild mushrooms and made great soups while the British were semi starving.  One of them was a big shot -- who made a pass at Mabel, unsuccessfully.

Posted Jul 31, 20 18:59 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Lansdown

This is way,  way, way off the wall, but if that squiggle at the bottom is 65, it is suggests an early post war cover rated with the old CSA rate.  There are a lot of reasons to disbelieve such an idea, but it would be nice if someone could come up with an interpretation of those squiggles.  Way, way, way.

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