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Posted Mar 22, 19 19:31 by Mohamed Nasr (mohamed_nasr)

26 with no frame line at right


There seem to be a few traces of a faded line on the right side. Could be a result of dry ink impression, I assume.

Posted Mar 22, 19 19:20 by Terry Kurzinski (terryk)

26 with no frame line at right

Is this a no frame line on the right or a very worn plate?
The scan is of a 200% copy so it may not be the  best.
Can any one help??
Thanks, Terry


Posted Mar 22, 19 14:17 by Ray Porter (rporter314)

examiner markings

Thanks Matthew.

I will send for copies of citations.

Posted Mar 22, 19 13:31 by Ray Porter (rporter314)

examiner markings

Thanks Matthew.

I will send for copies of citations.

Posted Mar 22, 19 2:57 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

examiner markings

There's a page on examiner markings at that should give you some ideas about what you're looking at

I was the first responder judge on the exhibit at the March Party. 

Posted Mar 21, 19 19:41 by Ray Porter (rporter314)

Garfield Perry

Are there any pdf's of any of the exhibits? I am specifically interested in

Study of the Small Circular Design Examiner Markings, Type EM-4 and Type EM-5 used at the General Post Office in New York City, 1883 – 1902
Wayne Schuetz

I do not know what these markings are.

Posted Mar 20, 19 22:44 by Roger Rhoads (roger rhoads)

March Party Palmares

Listed on Congrats to all.

Posted Mar 20, 19 14:52 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

John Olenkiewicz Collection

Not everything in the sale is Connecticut ...

#0908 @ $450 is:

[1842, RMSP Steamer Tweed Maiden Trip Carrying Mail]
18 June 1842 folded Vasquez correspondence letter from Santa Martha, Colombia to London, orange "Santa Martha JU 18 1842" split ring backstamp and London 27 JY 1842 arrival, carried on first trip as a packet steamer as the outbound trip carried no letters, fine


Posted Mar 19, 19 8:59 by Stephen T. Taylor (UK) (stevetayloruk)

Garfield Perry Cleveland

Just back from Cleveland and wanted to thank Matt and all the other volunteers who ensure this continues to be one of the best postal history shows Stateside. The new show location, near CLE airport in Strongsville, is the best in the 16 years I've done that show and I heard similar comments from dealers and collectors - and not one complaint. Looking forward to seeing the Classics Society meet there in 2020. The show makes dealers feel appreciated - each of us received a "thank you" card signed by club members and candy bars every morning... Steve

Posted Mar 19, 19 0:22 by Winston Sinclair (sinclair2010)

Lake View Water Cure

I would think that the owner of the cover in ca. 1938 knew what he had but I can't be certain of that. Ashbrook never made any notes on the cover other than the plate position. I bought the cover on ebay and before that it was in a large cover lot from a Kelliher auction. It has certainly been a long time since it was appreciated for what it is.

Posted Mar 18, 19 18:16 by Mark Rogers (markrogers)

1c Chicago Perf Cover

To the best of my knowledge, the location of this cover has not been known (at least generally), since Ashbrook examined it. That would have been 1938 or earlier.

It is in Wilson Hulme's census, but Wilson didn't have any new information, and clearly just used Ashbrook's photo and text as the source of information on the item.

Posted Mar 18, 19 11:31 by Jim Baird (bairdo)

Auction Catalogs Wanted

I am in search of a run of Robert Lowenthal Co. auction catalogs; precursors to Henry Spelman's auctions.  Full run is 1-24.

Others,as well. My interest is just US postal history excluding Confederate. RAS, SR, Frajola I have.

Cash paid, of course.

Thank you.

Posted Mar 18, 19 2:27 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

A slightly belated congrats to Mark Schwartz for his grand at the March Party for his Salem Postal History exhibit; Greg Shoults took the reserve with "Washington & Franklin Flat Plate and Rotary Press Coils and their Coil Waste Issues from 1910 to 1922".  Single frame grand went to Hal Vogel's "Great Britain's Greatest Irish Polar Expeditioner".

The reviews for the new hotel-based venue are virtually all positive.  We look forward to hosting the Classics Society next year!

Posted Mar 17, 19 16:38 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

New Exhibits Added

Two new exhibits from Michael Mahler just linked and uploaded:

California Blues

Thar She Blows

Thank you,

Posted Mar 17, 19 13:45 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

WOW! Winston S' Amazing Chicago Perf Cover


Congrats and thank you for sharing your wonderful cover ..... in my opinion, this may be the best of the four known. Of all the many One Cent 1851 - 57 covers I have owned over the past 45 years I never had a Chicago perf cover.

Obviously, it is very pretty ...... in addition I think it is so cool that the stamp, despite the "new perforations" was still cut apart with scissors. Guess the old habits were in place or they did not trust the new-fangled idea of perforations.

For the One Cent collector, the stamp, 48R2, is also very special. It is one of the top four major double transfers positions that exist on Plate II. Your example displays clearly the major double transfer in the lower label that encloses "ONE CENT." In its own right, it is also one of the best examples extant.

Do you have any of the history and or provenance that you could share with us?


Posted Mar 17, 19 11:58 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

John Olenkiewicz Sale

Yesterday I linked my new sale of material from the John Olenkiwicz collection from my "Sales" page. A direct link is here. The sale has several very comprehensive townmark collections attractively priced as well as several interesting individual lots.

Posted Mar 17, 19 6:35 by David Snow (dwsnow)

Bob Chandler

I was very sorry to learn of the passing of Bob Chandler. He was a true gentleman and always encouraged me in my research on Western covers and gave me much assistance. He was positive and upbeat. And his sense of humor was wonderful. I especially remember when he told me about Emperor Norton I, the self-proclaimed  Emperor of the U.S. and Protector of Mexico, an eccentric character who lived in San Francisco in the 19th Century. I have many happy memories about the colorful stories Bob would tell, and the meals and companionship I shared with Bob and his wife Sue. And his excellent articles in Western Express were a delight to read.

Here is a picture of us at WESTPEX in April 2006. From left to right, Bill Tatham, myself and Bob Chandler. I will miss you, Bob. May he rest in peace.

-David Snow


Posted Mar 17, 19 1:55 by Winston Sinclair (sinclair2010)

Lake View Water Cure

The stamp.


Posted Mar 17, 19 1:55 by Winston Sinclair (sinclair2010)

Lake View Water Cure

The contents.


Posted Mar 17, 19 1:53 by Winston Sinclair (sinclair2010)

80 Years Later

It has been a little over 80 years since Ashbrook, in Vol. 2 of his book, The United States One Cent Stamp of 1851-1857, spoke of the existence of a 1c Chicago perf stamp on a Chicago area circular. That report, on pg. 26, is all that we have had to prove the existence of the cover, one of four known. I am happy to be able to confirm that the cover still exists. I present the Lake View Water Cure circular.


Posted Mar 16, 19 22:00 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Perhaps one of our British members can say when mail between the British Empire and France was suspended, if it was. Charles LaBlonde has taught me that British and United States policy differed. The Brits preferred to read mail as a source of intelligence. American authorities regarded security as more important. Thus the United States suspended mail to and through France as soon as German forces occupied all of France, but Britain continued to send letters across France and through German censorship to and from Switzerland.

Posted Mar 16, 19 21:49 by A. Lavar Taylor (lavart1)

WWII Hong Kong Mystery

Ken and Louis-

Thank you both very much for helpful information.  There are still unanswered questions, however, relating to the fact that the cover made it out of Hong Kong at all.  Great Britain had broken diplomatic relations with Vichy France in July of 1940.  Am I wrong in thinking that this break in relations would have resulted in the interruption of mail service to France from Great Britain and its colonies? 

I discovered this morning  that, strangely enough,  Australia maintained full diplomatic relations with Vichy France to  the end of the Vichy France regime. Perhaps the local Hong Kong postal officials allowed the cover to travel to France  via Australia?

As a practical matter, the German occupation of northern France, including Nantes, in June of 1940 was hardly a secret.  It seems unusual that someone from Hong Kong would send a letter to a French military officer (presumably a Vietnamese in the French army) in Nantes knowing that the city had been occupied by the Germans. Stranger things have happened, of course, which is why this hobby is so much fun.

Perhaps I can dig up some information on the addressee.....

Posted Mar 16, 19 20:33 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

I took South Zone to be a reference to a Vichy destination, but evidently it was a reference to the port of Marseilles arrival.

Posted Mar 16, 19 19:19 by Louis Fiset (louisfiset)

WWII Hong Kong Mystery

Nantes was located in the part of France occupied by German forces in June 1940.  The letter got as far as Marseille, where it was eventually handstamped for return to sender.  It was set aside there with all incoming international mail from non-Axis countries.  At the time of this letter, Germany had not yet officially suspended French postal relations, which occurred on September 5, 1941 (Postal Bulletin 18278).  After this and over the next month all accumulated mail for occupied France from the west was returned by ship to New York.  Because transpacific shipping was no longer available, this Hong Kong cover could go no further and remained in New York.  On November 3, 1944 letter mail service resumed to Nantes (PB 18769) and most of the rest of France.  Sometime after that the letter made a final Atlantic crossing and was delivered.  An interesting item!

Posted Mar 16, 19 11:58 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Hong Kong cover

The cover was addressed to unoccupied Vichy France, not to a belligerent country. After being examined by a British censor it was sent there. Much but not all mail to Vichy France from non-Axis countries was not delivered and marked return to sender. By the time your cover was returned (after 12 December 1941), the United States had entered the war. The number on the cellophane tape seal was assigned to a United States Office of Censorship examiner at New York. By then it could not have been returned to Hong Kong, so it was probably held at New York until after that part of France was liberated, and then returned to France for delivery as soon as postal service was restored.