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Posted Apr 24, 18 23:45 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Faust Black Jack Collection

Absolutely spectacular. A philatelic wonderment.

The catalog is the ultimate in philatelic publishing.

Posted Apr 24, 18 21:05 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

Faust Collection

It was an excellent auction.  Actually managed to nab one.  But, only one.  It's one better than I normally get in auctions like this.  so, while I had my eyes on several, I'll find a way to accentuate the positive and enjoy the research and writeup process for the one I did land.


Posted Apr 24, 18 16:48 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Bernie Faust Black Jack Collection

Another great Siegel sale over the last couple days.

Great collection + great catalog = great results! Well done.

Posted Apr 24, 18 12:13 by David Snow (dwsnow)

cds with postmaster name

Steven Chiknas,

The postmark on your Cookville, Mo. cover is of a certain type of that time period which has the postmaster name in it, and is meant for regular mail, not free mail.

Here are tracings of similar ones used at Adams, Oregon, with not only with the postmaster name, but the county as well. From "Oregon Postmarks: A Catalog of 19th Century Usage" by Charles A. Whittlesey and Richard W. Helbock.

For an actual example see Cover ID 25704, from Giddings, Lee County, Texas (1886). As to why the postmaster incorporated his name in the device, I suppose it was a matter of civic pride, a personal choice.

And as to why your cover has those odd perforations cutting into it, I suspect that someone was testing a sewing machine, as Alan Campbell noted, and chose to experiment on a handy piece of paper, such as your cover.


Posted Apr 24, 18 12:12 by Alan Campbell (alan campbell)

Sewing machine "Cancellation"

This envelope would have had a 3¢ large Banknote stamp in the upper right. Small fourth class post offices such as this were not provided with government issued cancellers - they bought them, using their own funds, from commercial vendors of duplex vulcanized rubber handstamps. These could be customized with the name of the postmaster and the county. The stamp would have been cancelled with whatever standard design the postmaster had chosen - star, target, Maltese cross, wheel-of-fortune. The stamp was peeled off and saved for a collector. The envelope was then used as a practice substrate for a girl who'd just gotten her learner's permit to operate a sewing machine. The earlier practice of postmasters having the franking privilege and then abusing it by running mail order businesses as a sideline (free postage) was ended in 1873, with the introduction of official stamps and the abolishment of the franking privilege.

Posted Apr 24, 18 10:52 by Steven Chiknas (chiknas1)

Colorado postmarks

Matt: Thanks for the info. The postmarks from these towns that I found in a collection were unfortunately on cut squares. Wanna make you cry.

Posted Apr 24, 18 10:49 by Steven Chiknas (chiknas1)

sewing machine mutilation

Richard: I didn't notice the missing stamp 'cause I thought a PM could post whatever they wanted free. Thanks for the info. So why did you refer to the cover in quotes? It is an envelope that went through the mails to its destination successfully from a one horse town named after the PM. Something wrong with it? No evidence that there wasn't a stamp on it before it was mutilated.


Posted Apr 24, 18 9:35 by Jim Baird (bairdo)

Maiden Voyage cover

Does anyone have a cover carried by PMSC's Oregon on her maiden voyage from NY around the Horn to San Francisco? Departure was Dec 8, 1848; arrival was April 1, 1849.

NFS is fine.  I am just looking for a scan.



Posted Apr 24, 18 7:43 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

Steven - the Helbock factors are 8, 6 and 5 respectively.

Posted Apr 24, 18 7:22 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Sewing machine

SC - it is a mutilation added to the "cover" after a stamp fell off.

Posted Apr 24, 18 0:46 by Steven Chiknas (chiknas1)

Colorado POs

Would anyone know the Helbock numbers for Cooper, Wheeler and Seymour Colorado?


Posted Apr 23, 18 22:09 by Steven Chiknas (chiknas1)

sewing machine cancellation

Could someone refresh my memory on what the perforations are doing on this PM mailed cover? Cancellation in force?



Posted Apr 23, 18 13:46 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

Monster Rates

Andrew R.............

Eigil Trondsen has a cool piece in this Cunard Exhibit........ a $4.82 date coming out of, I believe, Michigan to England in the 1840s if I remember. It is a wrapper that held, I believe, 18 letters.......... and has all the necessary postal markings. I sold it to him a number of years ago.

Posted Apr 23, 18 11:11 by Bob Bramwell (rudy2donline)

History of NYC Post Offices

For anyone who studies the history of New York City post offices, I just came across a five-part article published in Harper's New Monthly Magazine, Vol 43 issue of October 1871 pages 645-663.  About as Not-Academic as you can imagine but the parts of the story I can vouch for seem correct to me.


Posted Apr 22, 18 14:20 by Alexios Papadopoulos (alexiosp)

Monster rate

great find, spectacular rate!
The record franking must be the 1822 letter from NY to GB at the incredible rate of 26 pounds 8 shillings and 10d in the collection of James Grimwood-Taylor.

Posted Apr 22, 18 11:31 by David Kent (davekent)

Punched Cards

The greatest legacy of the era of the punched card are the filing cabinets designed to hold them. The drawers are the perfect size to hold standard size modern covers. I still have two of them in the basement full of covers, and I know dealers who also store their inventory in them. My company was selling them off at $5.00 each. I bribed a cover-collecting friend with a station wagon (remember them?) to haul them to my house by giving him a couple for his own use.

Posted Apr 22, 18 10:31 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

Punched Cards

In 1976 i published Dave Baker's Postal History of Indianal, two volumes, 1,100 pages, plus a microfiche and still have in stock at the orignal price of $75 per set
plis transit

all the computer work was done on punched cards, when it was finalized the company threw a party to celebrate as they were out of computer space and apace
to story the punched cards, the illustrations were stripped into the printer film

i threw out my last box of punched cards circa1980


Posted Apr 22, 18 10:22 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Farley Katz Article

PDF file Is now available on my website, here.

Thank you Farley.

Posted Apr 21, 18 23:49 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Monster Rate: 28 Shillings + $10.14 1/2 (1843)

This is a recent addition to my transatlantic collection, which I think may be one of the biggest rates out there. Does anyone else know of any similar or larger ones?

December 6, 1842 from Lisburn, Ireland to Baltimore, MD per the January 4, 1843 sailing of Cunard's "Caledonia" via Liverpool, Halifax and Boston. Prepaid One Pound and Eight Shillings (28/-, $6.72) for a letter of over 13 and under 14 ounces. Rated $10.14 1/2 due in Boston for 54 x 18 3/4cts + 2cts Ship Fee. Docketed receipt in Baltimore for the $10.14 1/2.

Total equivalent postage of $16.865 or L3 10s 3 1/4d... about 0.82 troy ounces of gold in the currency of the day. About $1,100 today (at spot close for gold).

Probably one of my favorite finds ever.


Posted Apr 21, 18 22:14 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: Herman Hollerith "borrowed" an earlier technology?

Greetings all,

My wife and I first met over an IBM 024 keypunch back in the day. She worked for university administration that had an IBM 360. I was a student using the academic CDC 6600 system.

Herman Hollerith used the card concept first used on the Jakard (sp?) weaving looms in 18th century England if I remember the story? 45 years has a way of degrading the memory bank.

Russ Ryle

PS 1972 summer job - there were two CRTs in the machine room. We would load up three boxes of punch cards. When the card reader quit clacking we could play a crude version of a video game (star treck) chasing X and O and := and >< and etc. among a field of ***.

Posted Apr 21, 18 21:19 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

punch cards

I actually have several punch cards in my postal savings exhibit.  The 1954 series Postal Savings Certificates had some readable data, as did Savings  Bonds starting at the same time.  Can't find it at the moment but one of the postal savings related forms in the era was also on a punch card.

Posted Apr 21, 18 20:11 by Michael Schreiber (michaelschreiber)

Jim Baird -- The Mainsheet

I can send you by e-mail any article from The Mainsheet, the journal of the Spanish Main. Please let me know what you need.

Issues run from September 1972 through August 2004. Brian Moorhouse edited and produced the most recent 81 quarterly issues.

Posted Apr 21, 18 15:08 by Farley Katz (navalon)

I thought I might respond to Richard's comments.

Gary Loew suggested in an article in the ARPL journal that philatelists post their published articles on for increased exposure.  Some historians or academics in other fields might find some interest in these articles, but might never find them otherwise.  I know about the criticism over, but that doesn't apply so much to philatelic articles.  Anyone can register free to post, read and download articles on (You don't need to go through Facebook or Google)  Philatelists and scholars of all types worldwide can find and read your work.  And most of us do not expect any monetary return on our research.

As Richard notes, perhaps they can sell your email address, but that seems a minor annoyance in today's world and I think the Forbes article overstates the downside of using for a pure hobby like philately.  I have met and corresponded with philatelists around the world on it. 

Having said that, I have sent a pdf to Richard and greatly appreciate his posting this article.  Maybe someone might find it interesting.


Posted Apr 21, 18 14:37 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Hi Tech & Mexico Demonetization article

Farley's link takes you to ""

Forbes notes: "As privatized platforms like look to monetize scholarly writing even further, researchers, scientists and academics across the globe must now consider alternatives to proprietary companies that aim to profit from our writing and offer little transparency as to how our work will be used in the future.

In other words: It is time to delete your account."

Farley, send me your article on a flash driver and I will add it to PM site archive and promise not to harvest the email contacts from everybody who views the article (and then try to sell them).

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:51 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

Old Technology

Well, at least Albert was a science-type. More appropriate than Daffy Duck.

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:49 by steven frumkin (sfrumkin)

Technology, etc.

SC raises a valid point, but I wouldn't call this Hypocrisy, but prefer Self-Indulgence.

As philatelists we get to go back and forth in time at will (in a manner reminiscent of Sherman and Mr. Peabody). Made even faster and easier with every passing year, thanks partly to the increasing wealth of online information.

The trick is to keep in mind that any frustration due to getting one's butt kicked by some new operating system is a short term annoyance, not a character fault. Don't put yourself at risk of falling into the abyss of permanent curmudgeonhood. That's where philately, tactile and old, is supposed to protect us.

I think of my computer as nothing more than a complicated screwdriver. There's so much more that I could be doing with it, but that would cut into time and energy needed for other important stuff, like sorting stamps in front of the TV. Fortunately, I literally have in-house technical support. Even sent my first ever BCC email this morning. Felt like a real boy, not just a wooden puppet.

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:42 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Old Technology

Those IBM "punch cards" were invented by Herman Hollerith... pretty much he invented IBM. In the mid-90's I went to the Hollerith estate sale in Georgetown, Washington DC. Ginormous house... he did well for himself.

Here is a cover from the 1979 Computer Conference in New York. The only mainframe cover in my collection lol. Franked with the 1979 Einstein commemorative (sc. 1774), a puzzling choice of stamp for this event since Einstein never had anything to do with computers.


Posted Apr 21, 18 13:22 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

Old Technology

When I was in grad school at Cal Tech in the early 1960s, I got to use an IBM 7090, which had its own air-conditioned building. Data input was with "IBM punch cards" -- mechanical rather than electronic. Those were the days before integrated circuits. And computer time cost $5 a minute! I can do the same calculations today with one click on an Excel spreadsheet (with formulas in place). Ain't technology great?!!

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:20 by Farley Katz (navalon)

Exchanges of demonetized stamps in Mexico 1864

There was some discussion here recently on the exchanges of demonetized US stamps for new stamps. I have posted on line an article I wrote about how Mexico handled the exchange of superseded stamps held by the public for a new issue during a limited 15-day period in 1864. Fortunately, extensive documentation exists that enables us to identify many of the specific individuals and businesses who exchanged stamps, the amounts and denominations of stamps exchanged and many other details of the exchanges. The article is available here.

Posted Apr 21, 18 12:04 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Technology - Old Technology

My career has been exclusively on IBM mainframes for over 30 years. The operating system used to be called MVS but is now called ZOS, the Z for Zero down time.

It is old technology... but remember the next time you make am ATM withdrawal there's a good chance that the transaction was processed by a CICS region residing on a mainframe. Chances are also good that there are some old mainframers on this board :-)

PS- To my knowledge a mainframe has never had a security breach.

Posted Apr 21, 18 11:52 by Steven Chiknas (chiknas1)


I suppose the luddites don't realize how hypocritical they sound when read on an internet supported chat board to which they all seem to be addicted. Place your cell phones in the bag as you exit the venue. Just say'n.

Posted Apr 21, 18 11:01 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

A Resounding Congratulations to Hugh Feldman

Hugh has been awarded a second Crawford medal for his significant contribution to Philatelic Research. This time it is for his book "U.S. Contract Mail Routes by Railroad, 1832-1875." He is only the third person in 100 years to have been awarded two Crawford medals! The first was in 1999 for his book "Letter Receivers of London 1652-1857: A History of their Offices and Handstamps within the General, Penny and Twopenny Posts."

The Crawford Medal, first bestowed in 1920, is awarded by the Royal Philatelic Society London for the most valuable and original contribution to the study and knowledge of philately published in book form during the past year.

The medal is named after James Lindsay, 26th Earl of Crawford, who by the time of his death in 1913 had amassed the greatest philatelic library of his time.

Leave it up to a Brit, a great one at that, to produce two significant books relating the philatelic aspects of early transportation in America. His previous book "U.S. Contract Mail Routes by Water, Star Routes 1824-1875." is equally important and has also won many awards.

Both can be purchased from the Collectors Club of Chicago website.

BTW, Steve Walske and Richard Frajola won the Crawford medal in 2016 for their book "Mails of the Westward Expansion, 1803–1861."

In my original post I said Hugh was the only double winner...... there actually have been two others. Sorry.


Posted Apr 21, 18 10:56 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)


I drive a 1988 Volvo, 740 Turbo and plan to do so unless it or me gets wasted

It runs perfectly in all respects, about 18 mpg around town that is the only way i drive it as i fear a problem away from home but over the years virtually no problems

Some plastic parts have broken and i can't find replacements

The car does all i need or want for my city driving

OK, for road travel we have a 2013 350 E Mercedes with a few nice gadgets
but not the current state of the art, love the back up screen

Self stick mounts: i have never and will not considere them, have seen too much damage over the years and i won't take the risk that the current ones have solved 
the problems, i have seen real damage for those used 20 years ago, i have
covers i bought over 50 years back and mounted 30 or so years  back


Posted Apr 21, 18 9:41 by Roger Rhoads (roger rhoads)

Stamp mounts

The biggest problem with non-lick-n-stick mounts is the possibility of getting the adhesive on the cover. Great care must be taken with your full attention to detail to avoid damage. As for transfer through the plastic material, that is highly unlikely unless exposed to high heat for long periods of time. But then the cover will be damaged from the heat and time.

Posted Apr 21, 18 9:19 by Farley Katz (navalon)

The Mainsheet

The Mainsheet: the Quarterly Journal of the Spanish Main Society. APRL has a CD with issues 1-100. See here

Posted Apr 21, 18 8:44 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

Progress: Is technology your servant or your master?

Morning all,

The quill pen has been replaced by the computer keyboard. Clay tablets are now a video screen. We can all store more than the entire content of the great library at Alexandria on a device slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes. Whether these advances are good or evil is solely a function of how it is used, until .... it becomes your master rather than your servant.

Posted Apr 21, 18 8:34 by Jim Baird (bairdo)

"The Mainsheet"

Does anyone on the Board recognize the subject title as a philatelic publication?  I am searching for a couple of articles, one referred to in 1984; and another in 1994 - and I simply draw a blank on the title.

Thank you.


Posted Apr 21, 18 5:35 by Hugh Feldman (feldman)

Crawford Medal

I learnt at the beginning of last week that my book on the early railroad contracts is being awarded the RPSL's Crawford Medal for 2018 which I will receive at the AGM in June.

As far as I can see, only two other authors have gained two Crawford Medals, Meyer and Capt. Bob so it is rather satisfying that ones efforts are recognized and rewarded.

Posted Apr 20, 18 19:42 by John Koshel (jkoshel)


I am guilty of being part of a lot of that technology sector that a number of you are talking about, from automated cars using lidar and image processing to backup cameras to spectrometers (one of my students made a calibrated spectroradiometer using a smartphone for use in a museum setting) to anything else you can think of. Each day I am amazed at the new technology, but I feel your concerns/complaints too. Visit any day to see our optics program in Arizona.

Until recently I drove a stick shift, but usually I go even more rustic - I ride a bike.

Posted Apr 20, 18 18:15 by Dave Savadge (nomad55)

Technology - my view

I am a Luddite and proud of it. I drive a 93 Toyota truck, 5 speed manual, no power steering, no power brakes, windows that roll down with a handle, key unlocks the door....odometer died at 213K miles. I love it and will drive it till it rolls over and dies - or until I roll over and die. Things were so much easier "way back then", including stamps. Everything printed by the BEP on the rotary or giori press. No special press sheets trying to rip off collectors, no micro printed dates, no self stick that can't be soaked off. Change is not necessarily progress.

Posted Apr 20, 18 17:30 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)


I have never need to use multiple operating systems at one time and move between them. To advanced for me???

While I get Richard and Scott's points about cars, I have friends whose lives have been saved by this technology and I am sure a lot of you have also. I would rather an alarm go off then smash into a car. Most of it can be turned off but it is, in general, useful.

I am too lazy to use a manual transmission. Use to be fun.

Posted Apr 20, 18 17:17 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

Old phones

Those old Western Electric rotary dial phones are the best phones ever made -- I have several around the house for incoming calls. But I need one push-button phone to call out because AT&T U-verse doesn't support pulse dialing. Oh, well, I have to compromise to have fast internet, I guess. (Yes, I know you can get rotary phones to work on U-verse, but it's expensive, redundant and goofy.)

Posted Apr 20, 18 17:00 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

Old phones


Why so modern? I am looking for a dial phone!

There is a large flea market near here. I'll keep my eyes out for one that fits your spec. But how will I really know if it's beige?

Posted Apr 20, 18 16:46 by Scott Trepel (strepel)


Re Richard's comment "I also recently purchased a car with a stick shift and no cameras after having a new car that auto-stopped the car with alarms sounding because the camera / radar system bounced on a rain puddle that it thought was an obstacle."

I despise the new computer and technology systems in cars that put info on windows, sound alarms from "auto sensors", attempt to mimic NASA-like instrumentation, etc. A car trip through Italy last year was in a car that kept beeping when I approached the dividing line in the roads.

Likewise, we acquired a new phone system when we moved offices. Digital display. Complicated buttons and menus. I want to throw out the whole system and get beige phones with clear and red plastic line/hold buttons.

I'll stop this tirade against new technology before I start talking about articles that describe stamps according to their spectrographic charts.

Posted Apr 20, 18 13:29 by David D'Alessandris (davidd)

Stamp mounts

Roger - some collectors recommend using repositionable double sided tape or repositionable glue dots to attach cover mounts to exhibit pages.  This way, they can just move the mounted cover when they update the exhibit page.  Is there a risk of the adhesive migrating through a mount?

Posted Apr 20, 18 11:23 by Roger Rhoads (roger rhoads)

Stamp Mounts

John Barwis, thanks for posting my PowerPoint presentation of 2009 that was originally put together for the Garfield-Perry March Party when the Classics Society was with us. I recently reviewed it and have no reason to make changes. It is still current. I am retired after 40+ years as an engineer in the plastics industry, I was also a behind-the-scenes technical advisor to the Arthur Salm Foundation when the report cited was published. Also I was in contact with Bill Souder when he was involved in the three year testing of stamps and plastics exchanging technical information. Would be willing to answer any question anyone may have.

Posted Apr 20, 18 9:26 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Corel Ventura 10

I am spoiled using the Corel Ventura 10 program for the past many years (along with Corel PhotoPaint which was last sold with Corel Ventura 8). I will avoid migrating to any app in the Cloud, and paying monthly rental fee, as long as I can find an old Windows XP machine that works .....

The Corel Ventura 10 program can handle easy stuff like album pages to entire books. It does not play well in MS Windows 8 to 10 even in compatability mode.

I use a computer sharing software package from Snergy that allows me to use a single keyboard and mouse and bounce seamlessly between screens and computers with different operating systems.

PS - I also recently purchased a car with a stick shift and no cameras after having a new car that auto-stopped the car with alarms sounding because the camera / radar system bounced on a rain puddle that it thought was an obstacle.

Posted Apr 19, 18 23:23 by Gregory Shoults (coilcollector)


I would agree that software is a personal choice, mine is Publisher. It is simple to learn and easy to use. Placing text boxes and images is very easy.

Posted Apr 19, 18 19:10 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

I have used Hawid mounts for years and been happy with them. I buy strips and cut them to length.

The idea of archival is not a single measurable standard. To make paper archival the paper is buffered with a base so as an acid in the air is absorbed by the paper the acid will be neutralized. The more buffering the longer the paper remains archival. How much buffering do you need? Depends on the thickness of the paper and the time you want it to be acid-free.

Besides acid in the air, some paper contains lignin, a component from the cell walls of plants that causes the paper to yellow.

I use Neenah paper. It provides decades of protection, is easy to find, comes in many sizes and many thicknesses. I use 80-pound paper for single pages and 110-pound for double pages.

There are ANSI (US) and ISO (international) standards for archival paper. I am not sure what papers market that they meet either of these standards but museums may be users. Thoughts on why we should use paper that meet one of these standards.

John's link to the document on plastics covers the topic very well.

Posted Apr 19, 18 17:35 by Lawrence Haber (ldhaber)

Exhibit Mounting Covers and Stamps Advice


I think I understand your question being how do you mount MHN stamps in an exhibit without damage.

To that end I use Hawid mounts. They are then adhered to the exhibit page with a Herma removable adhesive which is applied to the page, very lightly, the mount then being placed on top of the adhesive. Occasionally the adhesive proves not to be removable, but in that event the mount protects the material but generally it is easy to reposition the material if need be. I do not use the adhesive on the mount as that causes the paper to disform due to the moisture used to stick them.

I’m no expert but I understand that Hawid mounts are archival for all practical purposes and would surely hope so since I’ve got exstensive MHN material in multiple binders

Hope this helps


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