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Posted Oct 31, 14 10:56 by Gerald Nylander (gn19091914)

Chicagopex 2014

The Chicago Philatelic Society will present its 128th Annual Philatelic Exhibition, CHICAGOPEX 2014, November 21,22, and 23, 2014, at the Westin Chicago Northwest, 400 Park Boulevard, Itasca, Ill.  Please contact the hotel directly to make your reservations (630-773-4000) and be sure to mention CHICAGOPEX for our special room rate.  ADMISSION AND PARKING ARE FREE!   Hours of the show are; Friday 10am to 6pm, Saturday 10am to 6pm and Sunday 10am to 4pm.

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Posted Oct 31, 14 7:30 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Charleston Post Office

I had a very minor role in that exhibit actually. Dick Krieger, who worked for me at the time (ca 1985), and I think John Hill were the primary forces in organizing the exhibit (the CSA portion). I helped with some descriptions and images of material needed and that kind of thing.

It was of most interest to me because none of the material was shown in the flesh, only very good copies. Most people who saw the exhibit were unaware that they were looking at reproductions although they were identified as such someplace I remember. Sounded like a viable plan to spare covers the hazards associated with physical display.

Posted Oct 30, 14 22:09 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

Charleston P.O.

Nice job, Richard.

Jeremy - can you post more photos please?

Posted Oct 30, 14 20:56 by Jeremy Crouse (crouse27)

Charleston, SC Postal History Museum

I stopped at the Charleston post office to mail myself a souvenir during a business trip and spotted a postal history museum. It was full of many charming items and I must have been there an hour looking and learning about the diverse history of the city and post office.

It turns out that Richard Frajola helped Dick Krieger organize this museum "many years ago."

A single photo is attached. If you are interested in seeing several of the other photos with detail and write ups please message me with your email and I will be glad to forward them.


Posted Oct 30, 14 17:09 by Harry Brown (harry01562)

Providence straightline


Thanks for that, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

So, between this unique example, and the much later straightline in the '90's, are the only cancels known in various forms of manuscript?? I'm going by the data in the Stampless Cover Catalog, which, of course needs an update.


Posted Oct 30, 14 15:09 by Tim O'Connor (drtimo)


I think Robert Rose did a fine article for the CCNY Journal about this letter. Tim

Posted Oct 30, 14 14:59 by Charles Williams (chaswilly)


Congrats to the Royals too. It was a magical season and yes Bumgardner was a beast.

Posted Oct 30, 14 14:42 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)

Providence Straight Line

I think this is the lot discussed:

Posted Oct 30, 14 14:25 by Harry Brown (harry01562)

Providence Straightline

Thanks for the quick responses. I wasn't aware that Ed had that Providence cancel, and will have to check the catalog. I had previously received information from the RI Postal History website, which is using the 1790's date. That is probably a later form of cancel than that in the Bennett sale.


Posted Oct 30, 14 13:18 by Tim O'Connor (drtimo)

Providence striaght line

Harry, Steve I'm in Maine closing the cottage, so I don't have my Siskin catalog. Ed had the earliest and only known Providence St line in that Bennett sale (I was outbid by the Museum !!!)....1775, I think. In my archival diving, I've not found any earlier. Tim

Posted Oct 30, 14 13:04 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

Cheryl Ganz

Congratulations to Cheryl. The job she did on the Gross Gallery is amazing and worthy any and all recognition she will get.

To those who have been following the baseball playoffs her efforts were Bumgarner like - consistent and sustained.

Posted Oct 30, 14 12:51 by Steve Roth (inland waterways)

Providence Straightline

Richard Jordan,  in his Rhode Island exhibit, gave July 29, 1793 as the earliest date of use. The exhibit, however, was put together more than a decade ago.

Steve Roth

Posted Oct 30, 14 12:28 by Harry Brown (harry01562)

Earliest Providence RI straightline?

Does anyone know the EKU of the Providence, RI straightline postmark? I'd also like either a source, or an illo of the marking.


Posted Oct 30, 14 10:14 by Terry Christmas (terryxmas)

Philatelic Foundation Awards Neinken Medal to Cheryl Ganz

On October 23rd The Philatelic Foundation awarded its Neinken Medal to Cheryl Ganz for meritorious service to philately. PF Chair Robert Rose introduced Vice Chair Donald Sundman who made the presentation. Don, who as Chair of the Council of Philatelists at the National Postal Museum, worked for many years with Cheryl in successfully funding and building the William H. Gross Stamp Gallery. Don outlined Cheryl’s many achievements including her tenure as the Chief Curator of Philately for the NPM. Cheryl is currently a member of the CSAC, has authored seven books, and is expert on all things philatelic related to the Hindenburg.

Accepting the award, Cheryl thanked six philatelic mentors who are no longer with us, each of whom made a lasting impression on her. These were Thomas Fuerst, Arthur Salm, Bernard Hennig, Charles Peterson, her husband Felix Ganz and W. Wilson Hulme her predecessor at the NPM. In addition Cheryl thanked Professor Richard John, who was in attendance, and whose writing has combined the study of postal and communications history.

The more than 80 attendees of the event enjoyed a fine evening of food, drink, lively conversation and philatelic comradery.  Past recipients of the Neinken Award can be viewed on The Philatelic Foundation website at


Posted Oct 30, 14 8:10 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

Museum of Postal History of Delphos Ohio

Until yesterday i had never heard of this museum or even Delphos Ohio, it is about 100 miles north of Cincinnati near Fort Wayne

See this link to a 3 minute tour, they own a 12,000 sq ft building on Main Street and appear quite active.

They have little philatelic, ie some RPOs, FDC etc. but no stampless. I am sure they would welcome a donation of any Delphos covers and probably any Ohio. I note the  ASCC list a manuscript in 1851 and handstamps for 1855-56

Gary S. Levitt, Museum Director Museum of Postal History 339 N. Main Street, PO Box 174 Delphos OH 45833-0174
(419) 303-5482


Posted Oct 30, 14 1:53 by Dave Savadge (nomad55)

SF Giants

A pic of me with hands on the 2010 and 2012 world series trophies.
Hopefully I can get one with the 2014 version.

Great series (except for game 6).  
Going over to SF tomorrow - doctor's appt.  Will wear orange and black.


Posted Oct 29, 14 23:40 by Rick Mingee (ramingee)

San Francisco


Great Postal History

Great baseball ;-)

Walske, don't get caught in riot!!!

Posted Oct 29, 14 20:56 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

Doug B

Who have they been giving it to? How much?

Posted Oct 29, 14 20:42 by richard babcock (babcock)

A great importance

AS off this coming month the icon Canadian Tire will be phasing out there money.I know it is not postal history but is history its self. They have been handing out there money since they opened in 1939. I myself will miss it. It is getting replaced by a card that goes on your key chain so it can be swiped.You thought on the subject.

Posted Oct 29, 14 16:51 by Steve Walske (steve w)

FIP Exhibiting


You raise good points. I am purely a postal history collector, and the rules governing that type of exhibit may not differ significantly between the national and international levels.

I always read the rules in the bulletins (both domestically and internationally) carefully, and agree that everyone should pay attention to those.

Posted Oct 29, 14 16:44 by Michael Dixon (michael76)

Exhibiting at NY2016

Darrell was correct when he indicated time is getting short.

NY2016 will be on almost identical dates (28 May to 4 June) as was W2006 (27 May to 3 June). W2006 distributed its Bulletin No.1 with Exhibiting Application Forms to all National Commissioners, including the two USA Commissioners in late 2004. Applications to exhibit were to be returned to National Commissioners by 1 July 2005; Commissioners were to return Applications to the Commissioner General by 1 August 2015. Notices of acceptance, or rejection, were sent to Commissioners by 30 September 2015.

Rolling these dates forward we can hope to see Bulletin No.1 for NY2016 in the not too distant future. We can expect NY2016 requiring similar dates for the next steps as W2006, i.e., a date of August 2015 for Commissiioners to return applications to the Commissioner General. The National Commissisoners shall probably ask for Applications to be in their hands by 1 July 2015.

To be safe, if you are contemplating an entry, you should aim for that qualifying national vermeil in the early Spring of 2015 -- in just four or five months from now! Sooner would be preferable.


Posted Oct 29, 14 16:41 by Richard Drews (bear427)

FIP Judging


You have an exceptional track record as a FIP exhibitor. This past weekend some very experienced exhibitors were showing their material to prepare for NY2016. They found out that FIP judging different from what they were used to. Most of the time we spent at the frames with the exhibitors was explaining the differences. There is a very distinct bifurcation between traditional and postal history at the FIP level. We are much more tolerant at the national level and in the next few years will deviate even further from FIP practices.

In all classes or divisions of exhibiting other than traditional or postal history there are also differences, some of them huge. One open class exhibit that is shown as display in this country gets credit for 60% percent of the material being accepted as counting towards the philatelic portion. Under FIP open class rules barely over 30% is accepted as counting towards the philatelic portion. The impact on the medal level was enormous. No cachets, post cards or advertising covers counted towards the philatelic content.

You have shown the finest material obtainable and have created some of the more sophisticated exhibits I have ever seen, but you haven't been involved in judging exhibits where the raw material is just strong enough to sustain a vermeil in 5 frames. Here the exhibitor is looking to do everything superbly well in hopes that treatment will shine and cause the jury to give one more point for knowledge or admit that maybe the subject is just one point more important than they originally expected. These are the exhibitors who need to read the regs and master every little nuance in order to do well enough to achieve a large vermeil and move on to 6,7 or 8 frames.

Kanai achieved a grand prix in 7 frames with his Mauritius and a minimalist write up in pencil. That was over a quarter of a century ago. The rest of us have to scratch for every point and can't afford to overlook the FIP regs and the sometimes erratic interpretations of them.


Posted Oct 29, 14 14:32 by Steve Walske (steve w)

FIP Exhibiting


I've taken five different collections to international large gold, and in no instance did I do anything differently with respect to the exhibit at the national level versus the international level. You will find greater appreciation at the international level for rare and unusual items, so be sure to keep those in. Otherwise mount it like you would for a WSP show.

Posted Oct 29, 14 14:17 by Richard Matta (rkmatta)

ebay find



Posted Oct 29, 14 14:16 by Richard Matta (rkmatta)

ebay find

A bit ugly, but still rather uncommon. front


Posted Oct 29, 14 13:53 by Thomas Droege (tldroege)

Looking for a Mentor(s) to Create a PH Reference


I have been accumulating Modern Mexico postal history for some 12 years now focusing on the Exporta series. I just purchased a 30,000 cover correspondence that spans the entire Exporta period from 1975 to 2000. I would like to develop a reference for collectors of exporta covers to help them rate the covers properly.

I am looking for a mentor or two that can take PH guidelines and help me apply them to modern Mexico. I have copies of all the original postal bulletins and have developed tables to rate covers in the 20 different postal periods (Tariffs). I have rated thousands of covers and have a fair amount of experience. I need some mentors to ask occasional questions, but first to set me on the correct direction in terms of what would be expected or that is typical in this kind of thing. Please reply to Tom Droege, my email is [email protected]

- Tom Droege

Posted Oct 29, 14 13:16 by george dekornfeld (docgfd)

FIP Exhibiting

As I understand it, if accepted, as a first-timer I would be restricted to 5-frames, which is certainly do-able as I would simply cut back my Hudson, NY marcophily exhibit to 'first recorded in 1793' to UPU.

I've already used the AAPE critique service for WSP level shows (and it made a huge difference).

Would those with experience suggest I remount/redo the 5-frames worth and then resubmit to AAPE for a new critique but at an FIP level?

Posted Oct 29, 14 11:01 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

FIP Exhibiting

To add to Rich's post the website for the FIP is:

His suggestion on using AAPE is excellent. This is a great organization that everyone should consider belonging to. Their journal is one of the best.

As expected documents are in multiple languages but English seems to be the one with the most current information. It is very easy to navigate. Along the left side is a menu. The Regulations submenu seem to have all the information needed although I found some of the other stuff interesting.

GREX and GREV seem to give general regulations. Information on each class of exhibit is found in SREV. For example Aerophilately, Traditional Philately, Postal History etc. It is worth reading the descriptions. Traditional for example is only 4 pages, postal history 6. The design of the web site is such that there are not links to the individual documents on each type of exhibit but each document can be easily downloaded. As with most things I probably read with my own biases but the 'specifications' seem to offer greater flexibility in treatment than I might have expected.

Net net, nothing here should keep you from trying to exhibit internationally.

Posted Oct 29, 14 10:11 by Barry Elkins (elkman3)

Guam Guard Mail

A follow up to the question I posted about a Guam guard Mail cover.  I've heard from a member of the USPPSS - US Pacific Possessions Stamp Society.  The cover I showed, which was, and still is, available on EBay, was a "favor" cover.  Any mail sent "off the island" would need regular US postage, so this cover woud have needed an additional 25 cents to go to the Philippines.  It was either handed to the postal clerk for a favor cancellation, or it, along with a number of other similarly marked covers, was placed in an envelope and sent abroad to a dealer or collector for sale.

Posted Oct 28, 14 23:21 by Richard Drews (bear427)


Keep in mind that FIP judging differs markedly from judging at WSP shows. If you plan to go the expense of exhibiting and attending the show, do yourself a favor by getting help early. You not only need to have your vermeil to apply, but you have to understand the rules. You can download the regulations easily, but it will only help if you read them. At the ASDA show this past weekend it was clear that many prople had not read the FIP regs. If you're going to spend nearly $1000 on frame fees, commissioners' expenses, insurance and shipping, at least do some homework.

I would suggest using the AAPE critique service and to ask that your collection be reviewed by a judge familiar with FIP judging. The costs are much less than the cost to exhibit one frame. At Stampshow you will have the chance to enter iyour exhibit and ask for the FIP option of judging. It only costs an extra $25. Be sure to attend the show and go to the frames with one of the WSP judges and one of the FIP judges for detailed feedback. Getting 30 minutes or more at the frames is the best way to learn how to improve your exhibit.


Posted Oct 28, 14 16:02 by Eric Jackson (ericjackson)

Palmares ASDA 100th Anniversary Stamp Show

The Palmares is available at this link:

Posted Oct 28, 14 15:16 by Dave Savadge (nomad55)

I have only been to one international show, at Moscone Center in SF (96 or 97?) and was impressed by the quality of the exhibits.  Took the train into SF almost every day the show was open, just to try and see all the displays plus browse the dealers who I've never encountered previously.  Definitely worth attending.

On a side note, the year my friend won the reserve grand at Westpex (same year Gordon took the grand) a prominent dealer who I've known for over 25 years told me that my friend should submit it as an entry to the NYC show, still off in the future.  Well, I already knew the answer to that.  Just for the heck of it, I told my friend what the dealer recommended.  As expected the answer was "no #$%^& way!"

Posted Oct 28, 14 14:48 by Steve Walske (steve w)

Rob F


I, for one, would really appreciate seeing your collection at the show. It is an expensive hassle, though, and I share your philosophy of generally accompanying my exhibits.

Posted Oct 28, 14 11:05 by Darrell Ertzberger (mteton)

NYC 2016

The time to get an exhibit qualified for application to NYC 2016 (i.e. get a national show vermeil) is running very short.  If you have a new exhibit that does not have a national vermeil, you should have it scheduled to be shown at a national show in the first few months of 2015 to get that vermeil. May or June 2015 may be too late.

I do not know the projected timeline developed by the NYC committee, but based on my previous experience as an international exhibitor and national commissioner, I would expect exhibit applications may be available by the end of 2014 and the deadline for getting the completed forms to the national comissioner will be about one year prior to the show dates, that is, late May 2015. I would guess that the majority of the notifications of acceptance would go out by the end of 2015.

Big international shows must have such long lead times because of the amount of work to review all the applications, communicate to national commissioners, etc. etc. As Michael Dixon pointed out, exhibit acceptance is a major undertaking because of various constraints and needs of the international show.

Note that unlike national and local shows, all the communication to and from exhibitors is through the national commissioner(s);  the show committee does not communicate directly with the exhibitors, as a rule. At this time I don't know that the commissioners for the USA have been selected. A potential exhibitor will request the application from the commissioner and return the completed forms to him also.

Posted Oct 28, 14 10:15 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: NYC 2016

Morning Rob, Michael, and all.

Interesting discussion covering exhibiting at the highest level from various points of view.   Rob, a rockie pitcher just went from the college world series to The World Series in one year.  It can be done!

The 2006 legal battle highlights how philatelic things can get out of whack when the enjoyment of the hobby is overshadowed by the emotions and ego of the exhibitor.  Just because you are not on a budget that lets you purchase material priced to absorb a $40K table fee does not mean you cannot enjoy the hobby.

Rob, do show your material several times prior to NYC 2016.  Enjoy the process.  That is realy the reward for your efforts.

Best regards,  Russ Ryle

Posted Oct 28, 14 7:49 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

For anyone looking to qualify an exhibit for NY2016, I should remind you that the prospectus is curently available for the 2015 March Party (March 19-21, 2015).  The March Party has frequently been used as a "qualifier" for international exhbiits and we'd love to see yours too! :)

Posted Oct 28, 14 4:39 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

Rob F


I agree that Des Moines is too crowded. That's why we live in virgin forest.

You have great material - you don't have to go to New York to show your exhibit there,

Posted Oct 27, 14 23:36 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

2016 Goal

You can do this Rick.

I owe you a response on something you sent a while back regarding an exhibit.  Please allow me another couple of weeks while we prep the farm for Winter and then I can get to it.

I'd considered working my exhibit into five (from six) for this show as well.  But, I prefer to travel with the exhibit.  So, will not likely add it into the mix.

and a note to all who are answering questions about how to exhibit at NY - our thanks.  There are several of us, I suspect, who appreciate the guidance.  Good question Andrew.


Posted Oct 27, 14 23:31 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

Big Apple

Personally, I don't see NY as too dangerous.  But, the comparisons given mean nothing to me as they do not reach me with my experiences.

First, you are speaking to a person who feels like there are too many people in Des Moines, Iowa.  Second, I've never been to Europe.  Third, I am just lucky enough to be able to spend a certain amount of disposable income on this hobby.  So, arguments about cheap or not and extra entertainment opportunities don't mean a thing to me as I would likely abstain in the interest of fitting a rigid budget for the hobby.  I am not trying to complain about that budget - I'm grateful that I have one.

Does it mean I don't think others might like it?  No.  Does it mean I have to like this show being in New York?  No.  Does it mean someone like me couldn't budget for the trip and have a grand time?  Of course not!

Now, personally, I don't really care and have not been one of the gripers about location.  In fact, I have been silent.  And will go back to being silent after this.  I just want people to consider that there are some valid differences that may explain why someone is less enamored with the location OR with the things that many are finding important about this show.

Would I like to go?  Of course.  Will I go?  It is likely that I cannot.  The end of May through beginning of June is one of our primary planting times on the farm. 

I realize you are not likely targetting someone like me with your comments.  But, that does not mean every reader here is aware of that distinction.
Still, by all means everyone who is able should work to build up the excitement for this event.  I am sure it will be wonderful with this many good people working hard to make it go - and make it go well.

And those who want to gripe about it should stop griping unless they can contribute something to improve it and remove the gripe.  And, yes, griping about location is shutting the barn door after the horse.  Get over it.

I will now return to silence on this matter.  thank you for listening.


Posted Oct 27, 14 23:16 by Rick Mingee (ramingee)

Getting into 2016

Chip had some good inputs. My goal...GOAL, is to apply to NY 2016 with a new (not yet existing) 5 frame San Francisco PH exhibit, as a first time exhibitor (for multi frame and/or FIP level).

I hope to have my 80 page draft worked out by the end of the year, with a goal of approximately one new page a day created (5 pages a week is more realistic). After I get the exhibit initially done, I will submit to WSP shows, probably Feb 2015 on out, and hope to land a qualifying award (I believe this is doable). This gives me something to seriously work for in an achievable time frame. Will I qualify for NY 2016? Who knows! Maybe, maybe not, but I still will try and hope to make it. At least I should have a good first-time multi-frame exhibit by a year from now.

Only Cipolla could start at a stamp show and end with Led Zeppelin! A+!!

Posted Oct 27, 14 21:52 by Michael Dixon (michael76)

Exhibiting at NY2016

For those who have not before exhibited at an FIP international event it should be made clear that the selection of exhibits is as much a competitive event as the judging and award of show medals and prizes.

For Washington 2006 we had 3750 frames for competitive entries.  Another 250 or so were reserved for the Court of Honor and other "specials".   FIP rules that the show organiers MUST accept any applications for the Championship Class.  For the approx. 3500 frames we had available, we received requests for just over 6500 frames.

The W2006 Exhibit Selection Committee went through each and every application and had to reject many applications.  Some parameters needed to be observed.  First it is a more or less unwritten rule (as with WSP national shows) that all youth exhibits were accepted.  Next there was a need to have 20% of the frames reserved for first time (international) exhibits (not exhibitors).

Then there needed to be a representative allocation to all the different clsses, e.g., Thematic vs. Postal History vs. Airmail, Astrophilately, etc.  Plus, of course the 1-frame and any experimental classes.   There also needed to be a reasonable representation for the different member federations of FIP.    We couldn't give 50% of the frames to USA exhibits ignoring, say, Singapore or Nepal.  Then the management needed, for the "smaller" countries, to be sure we allocated frames so that the individual Commissioners met their quotas for reimbursement (hotel, etc.) as set each year by FIP.

So even if you have string of golds for your exhibit, national or international, there is NO GUARANTEE your exhibit shall be accepted.   W2006 turned away one exhibit that had a half dozen FIP large golds.  We thought the exhibitor had had a fair shot at internationals and the community would be better served giving those frames to a less experienced exhibitor.  Sadly that led to W2006 management, FIP and the exhibtor's federation being sued......a process that tied up the W2006 funds and went on forever before being the exhibitor claimed victimization and denying him the opportunity of receiving a Grand Prix.

I fully expect the NY2016 Selection Committee will be cognizant of the pitfalls in turning people away, but the fact is that in all probability NY2016 will be significantly oversubscribed and applicants need to be aware that their applications may be declined.


Posted Oct 27, 14 20:20 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

The Big Apple

I've heard a bit of grousing about New York.

"Too dangerous." Are you kidding me? It's the third safest city in the United States with a population above 500,000. And you went to Rio? Are you nuts?

"Too crowded." You can't be serious. Have you been to London in the past five years? " "Too expensive." You can buy an excellent meal far less expensively than an equivalent meal in nearly any large city in western Europe. Hotel rooms are far less expensive in New York. Shopping is also far cheaper than in Europe. In the six years I lived in the UK, I would fly to New York just to supplement my business wardrobe. Flights, hotel and clothing were cheaper than the after-tax cost of clothing alone in the UK.

And if you or your partner are interested in the arts, you NEED to be in Manhattan.

Posted Oct 27, 14 20:14 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

More information on the ASDA show in NY

There were actually a number of 'top' awards. There were four Best in Show awards:

Jeff Forster Best in Show Postal History 1869 issue used in International Mails

Dr. Carmen Puliafito Best in Show US 19th Century Independent Mails 1844-45

Trenton Ruebush Best in Show International Century Egypt's fourth issue

Dr. Murray Abramson Best in Show 20th Century US Airmail to foreign destinations

There were also two Grand awards:

The one I received for the US and Dr. Robert Pildes for International 1948 Do'ar Ivri Issue of Israel

Overall there were many many great exhibits. I heard a very knowledgable philatelist say Jeff's was the best 1869 Postal History Exhibit he had ever seen. Nick's exhibit is of course special. Barry Schwartz's St Louis Bears were awesome. Brian Bleckwenn's First Issue Revenues was breathtaking. Never seen such quality of this material. Dr. Vernon Morris has his great Fighting the Fed exhibit. There were many more but that is what popped into my mind while I was writing this. Hopefully others will note some of the exhibits I am not remembering. Overall extremely high quality.

Seems like there is a correlation between Dr.'s and Philately :-)

I am sure the total results will be posted on the ASDA site when they get a chance.

Posted Oct 27, 14 20:14 by Richard Hilty (rhilty)

US Cover to China

Thanks Steven


Posted Oct 27, 14 19:04 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

FIP International Shows In The United States Are Very, Very Special For Everyone

Sorry for the length......

New York 2016
is an opportunity for all American philatelists to display pride and enthusiasm in their hobby and for some to put the spotlight on their vocation.  The real shame is that this wonderful opportunity for Americans happens only once in every 10 years, a decade, which is a very long time. 

I had my opportunity to attend my first international show at INTERPHIL 1976 in Philadelphia.  I had been a collector since I was five but had only become somewhat serious about the hobby just two years before in 1974.  Living in New Orleans and then Houston, the full spectrum of my knowledge concerning stamp shows was derived from shows in only those cities….. I did not know what the “big deal” was concerning the show in Philadelphia but many friends were telling me that I had to go and that I had to make a vacation around the whole show.  So excitedly my wife Margaret and I did just that.

From the preshow reception to the opening; through ten days of the show and attending the Saturday evening awards banquet I was wide-eyed to say the least.  We met so many folks for the first time there and more than two dozen became or still are very close friends.  The names run the gamut of the who’s who of the time.  For me the entire event was not just a stamp show.  It introduced me to what the hobby really had to offer above and beyond the simple individual accumulation of different philatelic stuff.   

When I saw real exhibits for the first time it motivated me to say that “I could do that too.”  I can truly say, without any hesitation, that if I had not attended that one single show in Philadelphia in 1976 I would have lost one of the greatest satisfactions of my life.  Not only the collecting but so many relations and true friendships.  In 1980 I attended my first international show in London; the second in Tokyo in 1981.  It was there that it became apparent that these shows are not just “stamp shows” but they are a point of national pride for each and country.  

Not only is NYC 2016 a rare opportunity for Americans philatelists to show their pride but it is a giant door waiting to be opened by each every collector.  What one experiences and what one takes away from the event will be personal and different for each..  Yes, New York can be expensive but with a little forethought and planning it does not have to be.  Yes some of the scheduled events have a cost but so do baseball games, using the bowling allies or attending a concert.  The rewards of each far outweigh the costs or we just would not do them…. So it will be with NYC 2016.

For folks that consider themselves as more than casual collectors I would contend that attending NYC 2016 is akin to having to have a stamp album or a book to hold your collections.  One will never regret having such an experience. 

Side benefits of international shows can be fun.
  Only because of INTERPHIL in 1976 I went to London in 1980.  One evening in the basement bar of a very small, nondescript, hotel in Knightsbridge I met five fellows that said they were "in the music business."  We all spent five plus hours getting awfully drunk on scotch!  The next morning at 11am they had a Bentley waiting for me out front and I went to a theater for the rest of the day to watch and hear them practice (no pictures were allowed).  We all did dinners over the next three nights and they got me a killer date for each.  The fellows were John Bonham, Jimmy Paige, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones and their investment manager who I actually met first.  Bill Crowe can verify the story.

Posted Oct 27, 14 16:42 by steven frumkin (sfrumkin)

US Cover to China

The blue crayon is a readdressing of the cover to the town of Petaiho, located where China's Great Wall meets the sea. During that time period, this was by far the most popular place for foreign residents in North China (mainly based in Peking and Tientsin et al) and their families to spend summer at the beach. The German stamps should not have been necessary for this forwarding.

Posted Oct 27, 14 16:16 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)

Getting into 2016

I think that there was a pretty healthy level of buzz around 2016 in NYC last weekend. The fact that they were able to attract the number and level of exhibits (at an international-level frame cost) for a "local" show by billing it as a "tune-up" for NYC 2016 showed to me that there will be good demand for frame space. Also heard of a number of dealers signing up for the show and they seemed enthusiastic, again based on their experiences last weekend.

Simple plan to get into NYC 2016 - you have to get a vermeil at a WSP show - there are 30 to chose from. You should start working out your exhibit now, as you'll want to show around and get feedback on it as soon as possible (either from people on this board, of from the APE feedback service (, learn from that and do another round or two and then show it at a show. I'd target one or two shows in the first half of next year. It's likely that the application deadline for NYC 2016 will be towards the end of 2015, so Spring 2015 is probably when you'll want to exhibit it publicly.
This is assuming that you want to show 5 frames. I think that you should not even think about trying for 8, as this would require you to show 5 frames in an International, get a Large Vermeil from that show, and then apply for 8 in NYC. Not enough time, I'd venture to say. For FIP shows, 20% of the exhibits are supposed to be new to International shows. In that regard, you have a bit of an extra boost.

I'm planning to give it a try to get my exhibit into 2016. I figure that just being part of the show is a bit of an ego self-boost (lord knows, you ain't gonna get any ego boosting from this crew!), regardless of any medal I do or don't win with it. Hope that helps


Posted Oct 27, 14 16:03 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

FIP Exhibiting


For an exhibit to be accepted by an FIP show, one must have been awarded 75 points (or equivalent) at a national show. In the U.S., 75 points is a vermeil medal.

Five frames are allotted by the FIP for exhibits that have previously earned up to 84 points, and to all first-time exhibits.

Eight frames will be allotted to exhibits that have previously shown in five frames, and that have won an FIP large vermeil.

Posted Oct 27, 14 15:50 by Richard Hilty (rhilty)

USCover to China

I'm a newbee to this message board, although I have added covers in the Past.

I have this cover from the US to China. It is to Tientsin where it was forwarded.

I have not been able to figure out what the blue crayon means. It must be an address.

I also suspect the German stamps, being unconcealed, don't belong.

Any help on the above would be greatly appreciated.

Richard Hilty


Posted Oct 27, 14 14:46 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

NY 2016

I'll open myself up to some "off board" input here. Given that one and only "exhibit" was at TPR 2013 (those that saw it can advise good/bad/indifferent, but I'm sure my organization does not differ that greatly than my organization of presentations at said events), I am honestly interested to know what "milestones" I would have to hit in order to be able to display in NY 2016. Now the answer may be that I would have needed to earn at least a Large Gold at an Exhibition 25 years before I was born, but it would be good to know that. Exhibiting pulls at me, but not as strongly as research and the sheer enjoyment of collecting interesting material. However, NY 2016 sounds like a good opportunity to share on a slightly larger venue than the board.


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