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Posted Apr 21, 18 23:49 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Monster Rate: 28 Shillings + $10.14 1/2 (1843)

This is a recent addition to my transatlantic collection, which I think may be one of the biggest rates out there. Does anyone else know of any similar or larger ones?

December 6, 1842 from Lisburn, Ireland to Baltimore, MD per the January 4, 1843 sailing of Cunard's "Caledonia" via Liverpool, Halifax and Boston. Prepaid One Pound and Eight Shillings (28/-, $6.72) for a letter of over 13 and under 14 ounces. Rated $10.14 1/2 due in Boston for 54 x 18 3/4cts + 2cts Ship Fee. Docketed receipt in Baltimore for the $10.14 1/2.

Total equivalent postage of $16.865 or L3 10s 3 1/4d... about 0.82 troy ounces of gold in the currency of the day. About $1,100 today (at spot close for gold).

Probably one of my favorite finds ever.


Posted Apr 21, 18 22:14 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: Herman Hollerith "borrowed" an earlier technology?

Greetings all,

My wife and I first met over an IBM 024 keypunch back in the day. She worked for university administration that had an IBM 360. I was a student using the academic CDC 6600 system.

Herman Hollerith used the card concept first used on the Jakard (sp?) weaving looms in 18th century England if I remember the story? 45 years has a way of degrading the memory bank.

Russ Ryle

PS 1972 summer job - there were two CRTs in the machine room. We would load up three boxes of punch cards. When the card reader quit clacking we could play a crude version of a video game (star treck) chasing X and O and := and >< and etc. among a field of ***.

Posted Apr 21, 18 21:19 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

punch cards

I actually have several punch cards in my postal savings exhibit.  The 1954 series Postal Savings Certificates had some readable data, as did Savings  Bonds starting at the same time.  Can't find it at the moment but one of the postal savings related forms in the era was also on a punch card.

Posted Apr 21, 18 20:11 by Michael Schreiber (michaelschreiber)

Jim Baird -- The Mainsheet

I can send you by e-mail any article from The Mainsheet, the journal of the Spanish Main. Please let me know what you need.

Issues run from September 1972 through August 2004. Brian Moorhouse edited and produced the most recent 81 quarterly issues.

Posted Apr 21, 18 15:08 by Farley Katz (navalon)

I thought I might respond to Richard's comments.

Gary Loew suggested in an article in the ARPL journal that philatelists post their published articles on for increased exposure.  Some historians or academics in other fields might find some interest in these articles, but might never find them otherwise.  I know about the criticism over, but that doesn't apply so much to philatelic articles.  Anyone can register free to post, read and download articles on (You don't need to go through Facebook or Google)  Philatelists and scholars of all types worldwide can find and read your work.  And most of us do not expect any monetary return on our research.

As Richard notes, perhaps they can sell your email address, but that seems a minor annoyance in today's world and I think the Forbes article overstates the downside of using for a pure hobby like philately.  I have met and corresponded with philatelists around the world on it. 

Having said that, I have sent a pdf to Richard and greatly appreciate his posting this article.  Maybe someone might find it interesting.


Posted Apr 21, 18 14:37 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Hi Tech & Mexico Demonetization article

Farley's link takes you to ""

Forbes notes: "As privatized platforms like look to monetize scholarly writing even further, researchers, scientists and academics across the globe must now consider alternatives to proprietary companies that aim to profit from our writing and offer little transparency as to how our work will be used in the future.

In other words: It is time to delete your account."

Farley, send me your article on a flash driver and I will add it to PM site archive and promise not to harvest the email contacts from everybody who views the article (and then try to sell them).

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:51 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

Old Technology

Well, at least Albert was a science-type. More appropriate than Daffy Duck.

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:49 by steven frumkin (sfrumkin)

Technology, etc.

SC raises a valid point, but I wouldn't call this Hypocrisy, but prefer Self-Indulgence.

As philatelists we get to go back and forth in time at will (in a manner reminiscent of Sherman and Mr. Peabody). Made even faster and easier with every passing year, thanks partly to the increasing wealth of online information.

The trick is to keep in mind that any frustration due to getting one's butt kicked by some new operating system is a short term annoyance, not a character fault. Don't put yourself at risk of falling into the abyss of permanent curmudgeonhood. That's where philately, tactile and old, is supposed to protect us.

I think of my computer as nothing more than a complicated screwdriver. There's so much more that I could be doing with it, but that would cut into time and energy needed for other important stuff, like sorting stamps in front of the TV. Fortunately, I literally have in-house technical support. Even sent my first ever BCC email this morning. Felt like a real boy, not just a wooden puppet.

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:42 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Old Technology

Those IBM "punch cards" were invented by Herman Hollerith... pretty much he invented IBM. In the mid-90's I went to the Hollerith estate sale in Georgetown, Washington DC. Ginormous house... he did well for himself.

Here is a cover from the 1979 Computer Conference in New York. The only mainframe cover in my collection lol. Franked with the 1979 Einstein commemorative (sc. 1774), a puzzling choice of stamp for this event since Einstein never had anything to do with computers.


Posted Apr 21, 18 13:22 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

Old Technology

When I was in grad school at Cal Tech in the early 1960s, I got to use an IBM 7090, which had its own air-conditioned building. Data input was with "IBM punch cards" -- mechanical rather than electronic. Those were the days before integrated circuits. And computer time cost $5 a minute! I can do the same calculations today with one click on an Excel spreadsheet (with formulas in place). Ain't technology great?!!

Posted Apr 21, 18 13:20 by Farley Katz (navalon)

Exchanges of demonetized stamps in Mexico 1864

There was some discussion here recently on the exchanges of demonetized US stamps for new stamps. I have posted on line an article I wrote about how Mexico handled the exchange of superseded stamps held by the public for a new issue during a limited 15-day period in 1864. Fortunately, extensive documentation exists that enables us to identify many of the specific individuals and businesses who exchanged stamps, the amounts and denominations of stamps exchanged and many other details of the exchanges. The article is available here.

Posted Apr 21, 18 12:04 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Technology - Old Technology

My career has been exclusively on IBM mainframes for over 30 years. The operating system used to be called MVS but is now called ZOS, the Z for Zero down time.

It is old technology... but remember the next time you make am ATM withdrawal there's a good chance that the transaction was processed by a CICS region residing on a mainframe. Chances are also good that there are some old mainframers on this board :-)

PS- To my knowledge a mainframe has never had a security breach.

Posted Apr 21, 18 11:52 by Steven Chiknas (chiknas1)


I suppose the luddites don't realize how hypocritical they sound when read on an internet supported chat board to which they all seem to be addicted. Place your cell phones in the bag as you exit the venue. Just say'n.

Posted Apr 21, 18 11:01 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

A Resounding Congratulations to Hugh Feldman

Hugh has been awarded a second Crawford medal for his significant contribution to Philatelic Research. This time it is for his book "U.S. Contract Mail Routes by Railroad, 1832-1875." He is the only person in 100 years to have been awarded two Crawford medals! The first was in 1999 for his book "Letter Receivers of London 1652-1857: A History of their Offices and Handstamps within the General, Penny and Twopenny Posts."

The Crawford Medal, first bestowed in 1920, is awarded by the Royal Philatelic Society London for the most valuable and original contribution to the study and knowledge of philately published in book form during the past year.

The medal is named after James Lindsay, 26th Earl of Crawford, who by the time of his death in 1913 had amassed the greatest philatelic library of his time.

Leave it up to a Brit, a great one at that, to produce two significant books relating the philatelic aspects of early transportation in America. His previous book "U.S. Contract Mail Routes by Water, Star Routes 1824-1875." is equally important and has also won many awards.

Both can be purchased from the Collectors Club of Chicago website.

BTW, Steve Walske and Richard Frajola won the Crawford medal in 2016 for their book "Mails of the Westward Expansion, 1803–1861."


Posted Apr 21, 18 10:56 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)


I drive a 1988 Volvo, 740 Turbo and plan to do so unless it or me gets wasted

It runs perfectly in all respects, about 18 mpg around town that is the only way i drive it as i fear a problem away from home but over the years virtually no problems

Some plastic parts have broken and i can't find replacements

The car does all i need or want for my city driving

OK, for road travel we have a 2013 350 E Mercedes with a few nice gadgets
but not the current state of the art, love the back up screen

Self stick mounts: i have never and will not considere them, have seen too much damage over the years and i won't take the risk that the current ones have solved 
the problems, i have seen real damage for those used 20 years ago, i have
covers i bought over 50 years back and mounted 30 or so years  back


Posted Apr 21, 18 9:41 by Roger Rhoads (roger rhoads)

Stamp mounts

The biggest problem with non-lick-n-stick mounts is the possibility of getting the adhesive on the cover. Great care must be taken with your full attention to detail to avoid damage. As for transfer through the plastic material, that is highly unlikely unless exposed to high heat for long periods of time. But then the cover will be damaged from the heat and time.

Posted Apr 21, 18 9:19 by Farley Katz (navalon)

The Mainsheet

The Mainsheet: the Quarterly Journal of the Spanish Main Society. APRL has a CD with issues 1-100. See here

Posted Apr 21, 18 8:44 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

Progress: Is technology your servant or your master?

Morning all,

The quill pen has been replaced by the computer keyboard. Clay tablets are now a video screen. We can all store more than the entire content of the great library at Alexandria on a device slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes. Whether these advances are good or evil is solely a function of how it is used, until .... it becomes your master rather than your servant.

Posted Apr 21, 18 8:34 by Jim Baird (bairdo)

"The Mainsheet"

Does anyone on the Board recognize the subject title as a philatelic publication?  I am searching for a couple of articles, one referred to in 1984; and another in 1994 - and I simply draw a blank on the title.

Thank you.


Posted Apr 21, 18 5:35 by Hugh Feldman (feldman)

Crawford Medal

I learnt at the beginning of last week that my book on the early railroad contracts is being awarded the RPSL's Crawford Medal for 2018 which I will receive at the AGM in June.

As far as I can see, only two other authors have gained two Crawford Medals, Meyer and Capt. Bob so it is rather satisfying that ones efforts are recognized and rewarded.

Posted Apr 20, 18 19:42 by John Koshel (jkoshel)


I am guilty of being part of a lot of that technology sector that a number of you are talking about, from automated cars using lidar and image processing to backup cameras to spectrometers (one of my students made a calibrated spectroradiometer using a smartphone for use in a museum setting) to anything else you can think of. Each day I am amazed at the new technology, but I feel your concerns/complaints too. Visit any day to see our optics program in Arizona.

Until recently I drove a stick shift, but usually I go even more rustic - I ride a bike.

Posted Apr 20, 18 18:15 by Dave Savadge (nomad55)

Technology - my view

I am a Luddite and proud of it. I drive a 93 Toyota truck, 5 speed manual, no power steering, no power brakes, windows that roll down with a handle, key unlocks the door....odometer died at 213K miles. I love it and will drive it till it rolls over and dies - or until I roll over and die. Things were so much easier "way back then", including stamps. Everything printed by the BEP on the rotary or giori press. No special press sheets trying to rip off collectors, no micro printed dates, no self stick that can't be soaked off. Change is not necessarily progress.

Posted Apr 20, 18 17:30 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)


I have never need to use multiple operating systems at one time and move between them. To advanced for me???

While I get Richard and Scott's points about cars, I have friends whose lives have been saved by this technology and I am sure a lot of you have also. I would rather an alarm go off then smash into a car. Most of it can be turned off but it is, in general, useful.

I am too lazy to use a manual transmission. Use to be fun.

Posted Apr 20, 18 17:17 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

Old phones

Those old Western Electric rotary dial phones are the best phones ever made -- I have several around the house for incoming calls. But I need one push-button phone to call out because AT&T U-verse doesn't support pulse dialing. Oh, well, I have to compromise to have fast internet, I guess. (Yes, I know you can get rotary phones to work on U-verse, but it's expensive, redundant and goofy.)

Posted Apr 20, 18 17:00 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

Old phones


Why so modern? I am looking for a dial phone!

There is a large flea market near here. I'll keep my eyes out for one that fits your spec. But how will I really know if it's beige?

Posted Apr 20, 18 16:46 by Scott Trepel (strepel)


Re Richard's comment "I also recently purchased a car with a stick shift and no cameras after having a new car that auto-stopped the car with alarms sounding because the camera / radar system bounced on a rain puddle that it thought was an obstacle."

I despise the new computer and technology systems in cars that put info on windows, sound alarms from "auto sensors", attempt to mimic NASA-like instrumentation, etc. A car trip through Italy last year was in a car that kept beeping when I approached the dividing line in the roads.

Likewise, we acquired a new phone system when we moved offices. Digital display. Complicated buttons and menus. I want to throw out the whole system and get beige phones with clear and red plastic line/hold buttons.

I'll stop this tirade against new technology before I start talking about articles that describe stamps according to their spectrographic charts.

Posted Apr 20, 18 13:29 by David D'Alessandris (davidd)

Stamp mounts

Roger - some collectors recommend using repositionable double sided tape or repositionable glue dots to attach cover mounts to exhibit pages.  This way, they can just move the mounted cover when they update the exhibit page.  Is there a risk of the adhesive migrating through a mount?

Posted Apr 20, 18 11:23 by Roger Rhoads (roger rhoads)

Stamp Mounts

John Barwis, thanks for posting my PowerPoint presentation of 2009 that was originally put together for the Garfield-Perry March Party when the Classics Society was with us. I recently reviewed it and have no reason to make changes. It is still current. I am retired after 40+ years as an engineer in the plastics industry, I was also a behind-the-scenes technical advisor to the Arthur Salm Foundation when the report cited was published. Also I was in contact with Bill Souder when he was involved in the three year testing of stamps and plastics exchanging technical information. Would be willing to answer any question anyone may have.

Posted Apr 20, 18 9:26 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Corel Ventura 10

I am spoiled using the Corel Ventura 10 program for the past many years (along with Corel PhotoPaint which was last sold with Corel Ventura 8). I will avoid migrating to any app in the Cloud, and paying monthly rental fee, as long as I can find an old Windows XP machine that works .....

The Corel Ventura 10 program can handle easy stuff like album pages to entire books. It does not play well in MS Windows 8 to 10 even in compatability mode.

I use a computer sharing software package from Snergy that allows me to use a single keyboard and mouse and bounce seamlessly between screens and computers with different operating systems.

PS - I also recently purchased a car with a stick shift and no cameras after having a new car that auto-stopped the car with alarms sounding because the camera / radar system bounced on a rain puddle that it thought was an obstacle.

Posted Apr 19, 18 23:23 by Gregory Shoults (coilcollector)


I would agree that software is a personal choice, mine is Publisher. It is simple to learn and easy to use. Placing text boxes and images is very easy.

Posted Apr 19, 18 19:10 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

I have used Hawid mounts for years and been happy with them. I buy strips and cut them to length.

The idea of archival is not a single measurable standard. To make paper archival the paper is buffered with a base so as an acid in the air is absorbed by the paper the acid will be neutralized. The more buffering the longer the paper remains archival. How much buffering do you need? Depends on the thickness of the paper and the time you want it to be acid-free.

Besides acid in the air, some paper contains lignin, a component from the cell walls of plants that causes the paper to yellow.

I use Neenah paper. It provides decades of protection, is easy to find, comes in many sizes and many thicknesses. I use 80-pound paper for single pages and 110-pound for double pages.

There are ANSI (US) and ISO (international) standards for archival paper. I am not sure what papers market that they meet either of these standards but museums may be users. Thoughts on why we should use paper that meet one of these standards.

John's link to the document on plastics covers the topic very well.

Posted Apr 19, 18 17:35 by Lawrence Haber (ldhaber)

Exhibit Mounting Covers and Stamps Advice


I think I understand your question being how do you mount MHN stamps in an exhibit without damage.

To that end I use Hawid mounts. They are then adhered to the exhibit page with a Herma removable adhesive which is applied to the page, very lightly, the mount then being placed on top of the adhesive. Occasionally the adhesive proves not to be removable, but in that event the mount protects the material but generally it is easy to reposition the material if need be. I do not use the adhesive on the mount as that causes the paper to disform due to the moisture used to stick them.

I’m no expert but I understand that Hawid mounts are archival for all practical purposes and would surely hope so since I’ve got exstensive MHN material in multiple binders

Hope this helps


Posted Apr 19, 18 17:28 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)


If you produced books and magazines like I do, I think you'd appreciate the difference and the limitations of PPt.

Posted Apr 19, 18 17:21 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)


To reinforce the stereotype, as a 20+ year technology consultant, the one thing I know how to do with computers is to use PowerPoint. It's been my choice for page production for years.

I'm sure I could learn something else if needed, but I haven't found anything I couldn't do with PowerPoint, so there was no need to try to find room in my brain for a new set of knowledge. I'm afraid if I did try to learn something new, the information would displace something important, like "where did I put my car keys? or "what day is my wife's birthday?"


Posted Apr 19, 18 17:17 by Leonard Piszkiewicz (lenp99)

The Best

Having used InDesign and its predecessor PageMaker plus Photoshop and also MS Office programs -- all for 20+ years, my choice is the Adobe products. They're easier to use and more versatile. After all, they're the standard of the publishing industry.

Posted Apr 19, 18 16:38 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Stamp Mounts

The old hinges are nice. But I must say, the guy in Vancouver who offers them sent me a substitute and then, very vividly threatened to have his trucker friends kill me when I mildly told him I intended to return them. They who must not be named backed him up thoroughly.

Posted Apr 19, 18 16:31 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)


This may not be rigorously valid, but my impression is that things that a soft and flexible are liable to be plasticized, and things that are easy to pinch and leave a white appearing permanent crease are liable to be unplasticized. The best thing is obviously to buy known products that use proper materials. I general use Taylor Made. (The stuff is good and I like small helpful operations.)

Posted Apr 19, 18 15:38 by Ken Stach (kenstach)

The Best

The best software to use in doing page layouts, etc. is a matter of opinion. And, in my opinion, it is the software you are most familiar my case Powerpoint. It is also universal as part of the Microsoft Office Suite of products.

Posted Apr 19, 18 10:53 by David Handelman (davidh)

page layout

And if you want really flexible software to do page layout, use TeX (not straitjacket LaTeX). This is the underlying engine of InDesign. Unfortunately, it takes some dedication to learn TeX, but once learned, it is immensely useful, and very fast. [All my exhibits on Richard's Mercury website, and the exhibits part of this site, were done in TeX.] After some initial hair-pulling, you can design things so that global (and reversible) changes can be made with just a few keystrokes ...

Posted Apr 19, 18 9:45 by John Barwis (jbarwis)


There are no compounds that will not deteriorate with time, so "archival" is a very relative term. Many types of mounts are "safe" if they are kept at room temperature and out of direct sunlight, at the optimal humidity, etc.

Here is an informative study prepared by fellow board member Roger Rhoades:

Bottom line: I would not worry about Hawid mounts.

Posted Apr 19, 18 9:09 by Ravi Vora (nusivar)

Exhibit Mounting Covers and Stamps Advice

I greatly appreciate detailed responses and suggestions on what and how to use mounts for covers from all. Many thanks.

However, I am still looking for guidance on mounting stamps (Singles, blocks, or multiples) on exhibit pages without hinging. I understand many use Hawid mounts. Are they of archival quality?

Welcome any advise and shared experiences.


Posted Apr 19, 18 8:36 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

Page layout

I found InDesign difficult to learn, so just use MS Publisher, which is more intuitive and does not require a manual to learn.

I create a page and print it in less than five minutes. Then, for my records, I insert jpegs of covers onto the digital page. If later the page needs to be changed l simply slide the covers onto the adjacent work space, edit the page, reprint it, and I'm good to go in two minutes.

InDesign is a fantastic tool. Many friends, including my son, use it. So does Michael Laurence for The Chronicle. It is relatively expensive though, which may put it beyond the means of many exhibitors.

Posted Apr 18, 18 19:19 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)


Yes. Some products like InDesign automate it so you do not have to delete to print but really not sure which is actually easier. I get the pictures in the wrong layer sometimes :-)

Posted Apr 18, 18 19:09 by Ken Stach (kenstach)


Gordon - your layers approach is basically what I am describing in using scans within a border. And, I also use the large corner mounts (LineCo 1.375").

Posted Apr 18, 18 16:55 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

David D'


Great excuse to give to your wife for trip to Italia...

Posted Apr 18, 18 16:28 by David D'Alessandris (davidd)

Bolaffi Kanguro Mounts

I bought some of the cover size Bolaffi Kanguro mounts with black backgrounds the last time I was in Italy.  I wish I had thought to buy some of the clear mounts in plate-block size to hold die proofs and essays that come in odd sizes.  I think the Kanguro mounts do a better job at holding oversize items than top-load mounts and I worry about damage using split-back mounts.  I guess the solution is to go back to Rome sometime soon.

Posted Apr 18, 18 15:59 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Bolaffi Kanguro Mounts

I have become spoiled using Kanguro mounts - they work for covers, stamps, fragments, everything. Same system, a (non glossy) mount with a closed corner that can be cut to size needed. Light hinge type glue on the reverse. Mount covers the entire surface of the cover, front and back.

This sytems obsoletes the use of heavy stock (which jams HP printers) and acid free paper (because nothing comes in direct contact with the paper) and allows the finished "product" to be uniform in appearance.

Scan of sample page below


Posted Apr 18, 18 15:33 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)


Lots of good advice already given. Scott T. is correct about the risk of the mount slipping between some of the cover and the page. I have experienced this.

The best solution I have found is to use the largest corner mount you can get vs. what seems logical - the small unobtrusive mounts. I now use the 37 mm Herma mounts which seem to be available on eBay. I like Herma mounts but I have no reason to believe that others are inferior. I do believe the self-adhesive mounts are superior to the ones that you moisten.

I have tried to put the mounts on the page first but seem to have a lot of trouble with that. Also sliding them in can cause damage. I use an approach similar to what John B. described but first be sure they will not run into the issues that Scott identified. For really valuable covers or those with the 'Scott' issue, I use a large stamp mount (they come in strips) and then put a small corner mount on the top corners to prevent the cover from sliding out. The ones I use require moisture to activate the gum and it always takes less moisture than you think.

Off topic. My new approach to laying-out pages is to use layers. One layer is the text, boxes etc. that I will eventually print, and the second layer is where I put the scans of the covers. This saves a lot of mounting and remounting since the pages can be printed with both layers on cheap paper to see the way the page looks with material mounted, for review. Less mount means less chance to damage the cover. When I go to print the page for mounting I just select to print the first layer.

Posted Apr 18, 18 14:18 by Ken Stach (kenstach)

Cover Mounts

Examples of the finished product are in the Exhibits section of PhilaMercury.

When I first started using corner mounts like this, I experienced EXACTLY what Scott Trepel described with the first cover! I knew there had to be a better put the mount onto the paper FIRST, then put the cover into the mounts.

The way I described previously allows you to do just this...position the mounts perfectly to fit the cover PRIOR to putting the cover onto the page.

Posted Apr 18, 18 14:02 by Ken Stach (kenstach)

Foolproof Way to Use Corner Mounts on Covers

I have yet another proven way to use corner mounts on covers without damage.

Scan your cover in at Actual Size on your scanner settings. Put it onto the page you are designing. Place an appropriate sized border around the cover scan, as most folks do for mounted covers. When ready to print the page, simply delete the image of the cover, print the page...then hit un-do on your software, and the cover is reinserted into the electronic version of your file.

I have all my collections mounted in this manner. The electronic version (I use Powerpoint) looks exactly like the pages of my collection, except that the actual mounted covers do not have the scan of the cover printed behind them. When I view them on my computer, I have the scanned image of the cover in the Powerpoint file (or, alternatively, you can print to a PDF with the images still within the borders).

You simply put your corner mounts (I also use Lineco archival quality corners) on the border you've created around the cover, insert the cover, and you're done.

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