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Posted Feb 23, 17 10:36 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

International Postal Museum website

This just in from David Beech:

Not quite so bad as one might think. The British Library archives all UK based web sites every six months under powers granted by Act of Parliament. Access to this is another matter but (subject to checking) almost certainly nothing is lost.

Regards, David

Posted Feb 23, 17 10:02 by Gary Loew (garyloew)

re: new home needed for digital material

I sit on the APS' Strategic Initiatives and Technology Committee. One of our agenda items is the need to provide "housing" for threatened philatelic websites. This is a perfect example of that need. I have just reached out to the committee to consider this matter.

Posted Feb 23, 17 9:44 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: new home needed for digital material

Morning Ken and all,

I just shared your note with our Philatelic Libraries round table group in hopes one or more library would offer to give these important documents a digital home. Hopefully some satisfactory arrangement(s) can be reached to guarantee these documents remain available.

Yep, digital documents can potentially go poof into the electronic ether not to be seen again.

Best regards,

Russ Ryle

Posted Feb 23, 17 9:26 by Chad Snee (atgpac)

Requiescat in pace, PMG Benjamin Franklin Bailar

I echo Scott Trepel's comments, below. I met Mr. Bailar for the first (and, as it turns out, only) time at Washington 2006. He took me through his Benjamin Franklin exhibit with care, delight, and precision, answering all of my questions. He exuded great kindness during our 30-minute encounter.

The exhibit was a splendid display of world-class postal artifacts, presented in an approachable manner ideal for engaging collectors and noncollectors alike. If exhibiting rules were relaxed to allow for more such exhibits, the hobby's ranks would grow.

Furthermore, such exhibits should be displayed in venues outside of stamp shows whenever possible. Pollination across other hobbies/affinity groups is the key for reinvigorating our noble pursuit of and admiration for stamps and postal history.

Posted Feb 23, 17 9:23 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

International Postal Museum

This morning I received this message from Ted Proud's staff:

Dear Subscriber

As a subscriber to the International Postal Museum, we would like to advise you that, due to the recent deaths of two of the Trustees, the future of the Charity is under review and we will not be renewing any subscriptions or accepting new ones

If you require assistance with the website please contact [email protected] for the time being.

Regards

Customer Support International Postal Museum

This is terrible news. The website has all of Ted Proud's publications for download, and all of his archived references (including the [United States] Official Foreign Air Mail Guide 1940-1945, which I supplied). It's an object lesson in the perils of digital publication for the long term.

Posted Feb 23, 17 8:06 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Great United States Stamps

Anyone who doubts that stamps have as captivating stories as covers should be sure to read Siegel's catalog for the Barry K. Schwartz collection of the United States 1909 Bluish Paper Issue. This has to be the grandest accumulation of these stamps ever assembled, with many details of their history published for the first time.

Disclosure: Unfortunately I have no stake in these stamps as seller, bidder, or agent, but I did answer a few questions, speculated in reply to others, and suggested a few leads to pursue about the mysteries surrounding these, some of which led to discoveries. It was my pleasure to read the result and finally to see pictures of the actual stamps. The story includes the oft-retold Travers-Steinmetz flimflam that cost Third Assistant Postmaster General Arthur M. Travers his job, a $1,500 fine, and his reputation.

As far as I can see, the only remaining gap in the narrative is the explanation of why no 50¢ and $1 George Washington stamps were printed on experimental bluish paper. The answer is because those denominations were entered only on 200-subject plates, which were printed on smaller sheets of paper of opposite grain orientation on smaller presses. The experimental and special printings included all values of the 1909 ordinary issue that had been entered on 400-subject plates plus the 2¢ Abraham Lincoln centennial issue.

Posted Feb 23, 17 7:26 by Jim Baird (bairdo)

Lake Ponchartrain "Lake Mail"

I'm researching mail that was endorsed "Lake Mail".  Interestingly, covers are found with this endorsement that were carried during the War of 1812 (and perhaps earlier) as well as in the late 1830's and early 1840's.  RF's Sale 70 offered two 1812 period covers with 51¢ surcharge.  Does anyone on the Board have one of them - or any others from the early period?  I need a scan for an article.  Thanks.

JB

Posted Feb 23, 17 0:11 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Gen. Bailar

I had one conversation with PMG Bailar about a dozen years ago.  He told me the story of how he terminated the government's practice of opening people's mail without a court's authorization.  He did a bit of the naif confronted with something amazing.  It was mildly droll and impressive at the same time.   Plus his parents' tremendous good taste in naming him.  (There is a cover I believe was in the collection -- not recently -- that I covet greatly.)

Posted Feb 22, 17 23:24 by A. Lavar Taylor (lavart1)

Tax Controversy Attorney President

Richard Nixon was a pretty good guess.  I suspect that he dealt with tax issues when he was in private practice.  But he did not (to my knowledge) litigate tax controversies.

The answer is a bit surprising.  Normally you would associate a tax controversy attorney with income tax disputes.  But the income tax, in its present form, has only been around for about 100 years. Excise taxes blossomed in the 1860's due to the need to raise funds for the Civil War. But  even before the blossom of excise taxes in the 1860's, property taxes raised lots of revenue.

So who paid property taxes?  Railroad companies, of course.  And who represented railroad companies and handled their property tax disputes? Why none other than Abraham Lincoln, ace tax controversy attorney, not to mention the 16th President of the United States.

Posted Feb 22, 17 22:25 by David Kent (davekent)

Tax Attorney President

As president of the ATA Americana Unit and a lifelong presidents-on-stamps collector, I suppose I must make a guess. I'll nominate Richard Nixon, who worked as an attorney in New York through the 1960s. His "I am not a crook" speech actually referred to a controversial income tax charitable deduction, not the Watergate mess. Re: philately, he signed the legislation creating the Postal Service as an independent agency, which resulted in major changes in the way the post office is operated, including rates, routes, services, and stamps. Nevertheless, I suspect that most of the groundwork on the new status was worked out before he became president.

Posted Feb 22, 17 20:31 by A. Lavar Taylor (lavart1)

Tax Attorney Presidents contributing to philately

Having learned that the board is populated by more than one tax attorney (and more than one "tax controversy" attorney),  I note for the record  that there is one President who was a tax controversy attorney. To tie this post to a topic relevant to this Board, this President has also contributed to philately, at least visually. He could have been a collector, but I doubt it.

Will post the name later, in case anyone cares enough to wager a guess, informed or otherwise.

Posted Feb 22, 17 17:20 by Scott Trepel (strepel)

Ben Bailar

A tremendous loss.

Apropos to the discussion about exhibiting, Ben was a latecomer to exhibiting, and he had no interest in awards. He thought stamp exhibits on 8 x 11 inch pages with long captions in small type were a turn-off. So, when he designed his Franklin exhibit for Washington 2006, he used oversize pages, wrote user-friendly captions in large readable type (similar to museum style presentation), added blown-up photos of highlights and arranged it so the material would appeal to the average person, collector or non-collector.

I thought it was quite successful, and it attracted lots of attention.

Ben was a forward-thinking man in all aspects of his life, and his accomplishments were numerous and varied. It was an honor to know him.

Posted Feb 22, 17 16:59 by David Benson (dbenson)

Stamps V Covers

I was speaking to a collector from GB a few days ago, he told me that in his local club hardly anyone collects covers and they mostly concentrate on stamps of GB and Colonies.

At my local club here in Sydney which has mainly specialised collectors most of them collect covers or stamps and covers.

At local suburban & country clubs the emphasis is on stamps not covers.

At Exhibitions the number of Postal History Exhibits have been increasing year after year whilst Traditional has been decreasing,

David B.

Posted Feb 22, 17 16:54 by David Kent (davekent)

Stamp Collecting Presidents

I seem to recall that Herman Herst, in one of his books, claimed that Herbert Hoover had been a stamp collector, and was the one who initiated the custom of having the State Department send interesting incoming covers to the White House, However, I don't find any mention of his name in the index to "Nassau Street". Ernest Kehr, in his 1947 book "The Romance of Stamp Collecting," states that Hoover had been a collector in his youth but was no longer collecting by the time Kehr met him.

Posted Feb 22, 17 16:30 by Alexander Haimann (bastamps)

Response to Russ

Russ - I know more women collectors under the age of 50 than over. Women and other demographics not seen often in older age cohorts are far better represented in the under 50 age group. 1/3 of YPLF graduates are women as well. There are many aspects of the public-facing hobby that are inhospitable to anyone that is not a 65+ year old white man. Several of the women APS members who have come to our Young Friends events have noted it was their first stamp show they have attended since...and followed by a story of a less than positive first experience attending a show earlier in their collecting life. The imbalance is not in the Young Friends demographic - it's in the older demographic.

Posted Feb 22, 17 15:55 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

Sorry to hear of Mr. Bailar's passing. I am lucky enough to have one ex-Bailar item; it will be in my postal savings exhibit at the March Party this year. (photo credit to Siegel Auction Galleries).

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Posted Feb 22, 17 15:55 by Mark Robbins (funcitypapa4051)

Stamp collecting presidents

Scott: Gerald R Ford was also a stamp collector in his earlier years but I am not sure when he ceased collecting or what the nature of his collection was.

Posted Feb 22, 17 15:14 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Ben Bailar RIP

Very sorry to hear about Ben Bailar. A great collector and friend to stamp collecting and philately.

Beyond philately, I had an unusual "intersection" with him. When the Pony Express book was published, Ben Bailar's name was listed in the acknowledgements because he had provided images of his wonderful 1c 1861 use on a Pony cover (census #W55). When my father looked at the book he noticed "Bailar" as a familiar name. He recognized the name because he knew Ben's father. It turned out that Bens' father had been an inspirational professor of biochemistry at the Univ. of Illinois when my father got his PHD there in the late 1940s.

Posted Feb 22, 17 15:09 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: Young Friends of the APS - a gender inbalance?

Alexander,

Am I missing something here?

Russ

Posted Feb 22, 17 14:45 by Scott Trepel (strepel)

FDR

I don't know why FDR's collection gets such a bad rap.

He had a lot of great material, including Hong Kong covers and a 90c 1861 to Hong Kong (Delano family related), as well as the proof material etc.

In common with a number of prominent American families with great fortunes made during the 18th and 19th centuries, the Delanos were involved in the opium trade with China. No one likes to talk about the money earned from getting Chinese addicted to narcotics. FDR's affinity for China actually influenced his politics, whereas his cousin Theodore was fascinated with Japan and Japanese military prowess (he secretly steered the treaty between Russia and Japan toward the latter's favor).

As far as I know, FDR was the only stamp-collecting president.


Posted Feb 22, 17 14:35 by Alexander Haimann (bastamps)

Creating New Collectors of All Ages

Charles E - Welcome to the Philamercury Board!

To all - on the topic of how the hobby should coordinate engagement of different demographic groups/ages/audiences to become collectors - I have always believed that the key to the hobby's outreach and cultivation of new collectors is a full life-cycle approach. I don't think we should put all our efforts and resources into just trying to interest kids in the same way I don't think we should just focus on 75+ year old adults. When I put forward the idea for the Young Philatelic Leaders Fellowship in 2008, I did so because after age 12/13, there was nothing to help a young person that was already interested reach the next level in their hobby involvement.

In 2014, in collaboration with a few other APS members in their 20s, 30s and 40s, we created the Young Friends of the APS. This is a group of APS members age 49 and younger that get together at different APS stampshows to meet, learn and celebrate our mutual interest in the hobby. We've gathered at 5-6 shows to date with between 10-30 members in attendance at each event. The picture shown here is from one of our events at NY2016. We'll be gathering again in Richmond this August.

Before creating an initiative to target 30-60 year olds to become collectors, it's important to have a feel for the needs/wants/incentives/roadblocks of our existing collecting population in that age range. Additionally, it is a simple truth that it is much easier to get someone interested in an activity if they are introduced to it by a peer. The current collectors in their 30s-50s will be critical ambassadors to go out and help engage individuals in those age ranges to consider trying-out/exploring philately.

Our hobby is just that - a hobby. Many of the professionals are engaged in it as a second career etc. Things move slowly as a result. I am a member of several trade associations outside of philately and it's amazing how quickly they mobilize support and resources to tackle critical challenges to their industries. I've accepted this reality and its okay. I stand at the ready to partner with anyone with serious intent to develop substantive outreach programs for different age groups/demographics to be introduced to philately/stamp collecting/postal history etc.

As I re-read this post, I realize that it may seem to have a negative tinge, that is not my intent. There is a lot of progress being made on many fronts but we can always do more.

Bottom line - I'm proud and honored to have Charles E so deeply involved in our wonderful hobby.

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Posted Feb 22, 17 14:28 by Charles E. Cwiakala ([email protected])

+++ Benjamin F. Bailar +++

I very much regret to inform you of the death of Benjamin F. Bailar, our very good friend, the ex-Postmaster General (1975-1978), and a serious collector of the stamps and postal history related to Benjamin Franklin. Ben left us on Monday, 20th February, at the age of 82, after suffering a series of strokes during this past weekend. Other details of an immediate nature are not known at this time.

Memorial services commemorating his life are planned to take place during March or April. Further information will be distributed when his daughter, Christina, finalizes those plans.

May he rest in Peace   ...

CEC

Posted Feb 22, 17 13:31 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Pony Express

Ken - Dare I mention that if that cover looked like it does now, FDR would not have owned it ... it speaks more to the art of the restorer than it does the good taste of FDR the collector.

Posted Feb 22, 17 13:25 by Ken Stach (kenstach)

FDR Collection

Not everything was scrap in the FDR collection. I picked up this item recently, which is ex-FDR as noted by the handstamp on verso.

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Posted Feb 22, 17 13:19 by John Wilson (vladivohaken)

FDR collection

Charles E makes a good follow-up to my comment about publicity. If the NYT covered the FDR collection, would anyone in NY care to take up my suggestion about getting one or more of the Frajola displays into the popular press? Scott?

Perhaps we should be promoting the postal history as the first step to collecting rather than worrying about new issues and first day covers?

John W.

Posted Feb 22, 17 12:42 by David Snow (dwsnow)

FDR collection

I did a little research online and found this information about the Roosevelt collection posted in 2004 by a dealer:

"As a cover dealer, I frequently come across covers from his collection. He used to get all the covers addressed to the "Secretary of State" from the various consulates around the world. An interesting point: normally the wax seals were cut out of the back "for security reasons". I guess they did not want anyone having a model of the wax seal. They can be identified as coming from the Roosevelt collection because Harmer's placed one of a number of different rubberstamped messages on the back, to give some provenance to what was, at the time, a very mundane cover. . . For anyone interested, these come up regularly, and sell in the range of $12-25, depending on the country of origin. They are almost always large business size envelopes."

A collector wrote in response: 
"H.R. Harmer & Co. purchased much of the scrap material and placed individual, worthless stamps, on a small white card, and stamped them on the back "from the Roosevelt collection", and sold them."

Posted Feb 22, 17 12:11 by Charles Epting (charlesepting)

FDR collection

While I agree that much of the FDR collection was unimpressive from a philatelic standpoint, I believe that the importance of the four FDR sales from a publicity standpoint must also be considered. The New York Times covered the sales no fewer than 20 times over the course of 1946--so while the quality of material was obviously not on par with Hind, Caspary, or Dale/Lichtenstein, the Roosevelt sales still had a major impact on the hobby and certainly captured the attention of a nation still grieving the president's death.

Posted Feb 22, 17 10:31 by Larry Bustillo (suburban)

Mystical

Nick,

Yes older than you. And like you very knowledgeable and a nice guy.

Posted Feb 22, 17 9:45 by Ravi Vora (nusivar)

1830s Opium Trade Wars Via Amitav Ghosh Books & Postal History

India/England/China: History of Opium Trade and Wars and Philatelic Connectionl: Amitav Ghosh is one of my favorite great Indian writers. I am currently reading his triology of Sea of Poppies and River of Smoke. The first one is about the emergence of poppy growing and opium production in India by British India rulers and extreme exploitation of India's rural population especially in Bihar and Bengal and mercantile trade between Calcutta/India, Mauritius (Many Indian forced labor were sent to Mauritius for helping sugar cane plantation) during 1830s to 1860s. In fact I have stampless letters from Calcutta to Mauritius! Second book, River of Smoke is about Opium trade between India and China during 1830s with active role of Indian Parsi (Bombay), Bengali traders (Calcutta) as well as British and American traders with large story base in Canton, Macau and what now is Hong Kong. What is more interesting is Amitav Ghosh use of actual historical figures. For example one of the prominent American trader in Canton then was Mr. Wetmore. Coincidentally I have a couple of letters from Mr. Wetmore in Canton during 1830s detailed trials and tribulations of opium trade and opium trade wars as well as challenges of dealing with Chinese officials. Also have early letters between Canton and India including a letter from a British Naval Admiral who was dispatched from Bombay to Chinese waters to protect Opium trade by British and Indian business community! If readers are interested, I can post one of these Wetmore letters. Ravi Vora

Posted Feb 22, 17 9:37 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: Today, as on every day at my desk, I will hold history in my hand.

Morning John and all,

What a fabulous positive statement defining postal history. Wish I had thought of it first. Paraphrasing its format we have, "Postal history lets you hold history in your hands."

The future of our hobby lies in helping others experience this pleasure.

Best regards,

Russ Ryle

Posted Feb 22, 17 8:59 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

FDR collection

I would have judged it 95% (by quantity) scrap.

On the other hand, I do think Bernard Hamer having sold the Caspary collection, with help from Herbie Bloch, is worth a near-permanent place in advertising copy.

Posted Feb 22, 17 8:56 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

FDR's collection

included some gems that would not exist had they not been created for him. When David Bizé was my client, I purchased for him FDR's large die proof of the bicolor 5¢ Beacon air mail stamp, which was a showpiece of Dave's gold/grand exhibit.

Posted Feb 22, 17 8:46 by David Snow (dwsnow)

cover addressed to FDR

And here is the cover itself. This item was given to me as a gift from a dealer.

Here is a quote from the Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library & Museum website:

"At his death, his personal stamp collection numbered over 1,200,000 stamps, 80% of which was of little value - "scrap" as the President called it. The collection was sold at public auction in accordance with his wishes and realized $228,000.00. The stamps he received officially from foreign governments were not sold, but are a part of the holdings of the Roosevelt Library."

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Posted Feb 22, 17 8:45 by David Snow (dwsnow)

FDR collection cont'd

Here is the 2nd page of that booklet.

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Posted Feb 22, 17 8:43 by David Snow (dwsnow)

FDR collection

Since Richard mentioned about the FDR collection, I thought I would share a cover addressed to the President, sold by H.R. Harmer at their auction in 1946, mounted in a booklet. Next two posts will show the contents.

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Posted Feb 22, 17 8:34 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

FDR

It would be difficult to emulate FDR's collecting habits, given that one would have to convince the Postmaster General to print special stamps solely for one's collection.

Posted Feb 22, 17 8:23 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Flim flam?

I don't disparage what others collect. Instead, I try to learn why their stamps and covers interest them, and to publish what I learn. See my first stamp book, Linn's Plate Number Coil Handbook, or my most recent, The Liberty Series, for abundant examples, which go on to illustrate their importance in franking mail.

However, if I were so grumpy as to consider joining that dissonant choir I would not begin by disparaging stamps, not only because they open the door to collecting, but also because the greatest and most appealing philatelic legend of all, not just in the United States, is the red and blue 24¢ Curtiss JN-4H "Jenny" air post stamp of 1918 with center vignette inverted.

Posted Feb 22, 17 7:42 by Stephen T. Taylor (UK) (stevetayloruk)

USA to Turkey star cancels

Rob, I bought that cover in a May 2000 Corinphila Switzerland auction, alongwith many other very nice USA to Turkey. Sold that one to Andy Leavitt a month later. No idea who he sold it to - maybe someone at Kelleher would know? Steve

Posted Feb 22, 17 4:25 by John Wilson (vladivohaken)

Youth and Philately

What a wonderful and refreshing input from Charles Epting. If we (the old men) are to get any message across to young(er) potential collectors, then let it be this “Today I held history in my hand” when we look at covers that have been properly used (and/or abused by the battlefield). Young(er) folk are not likely to be impressed by “flim-flam”, but a presentation of Pony Express mail, actually carried across America must surely stir anyone’s interest.

Forget trying to enthuse smart youngsters to collect worthless scraps of sticky paper; instead get the Frajola non-competitive displays from last year into the pages of Newsweek or on to the pages of the NYT. Playing with mint stamps, particularly recent ghastly abominations masquerading as postage labels will convince no-one.

Today, as on every day at my desk, I will hold history in my hand.

John W.

Posted Feb 22, 17 2:47 by Nick Kirke (nick kirke)

Collecting

Charles, welcome to the bull pit! An excellent post full of positives.

Larry, is this mystical collector older than me?

Posted Feb 21, 17 18:49 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Charles E.

Welcome!

(And for the record, I do not think many collectors emulate FDR in their collecting habits these days [if you have not seen the catalog for his collection, you might take a look] .. Insert smiley face)

Posted Feb 21, 17 18:31 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Epting

Very well put.

Posted Feb 21, 17 18:30 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

I'm a convert! Optimism is contagious!

So, at the tender age of 48, the message I am receiving is that I should STOP buying the postal history that I am, put the money I am spending away for the next ten years or so, and buy everything in 2027 for 10%-20% of what it sells for now, as long as I don't mind that the Pokemon collectors will consider me to be a tad eccentric and that there won't be very many people to commiserate with - or show material to.

Economically, that may make sense, but I kind of appreciate the knowledge and friends that I can experience great material with today. Just be aware that I may haggle a bit more now. (Smirk) If my material loses 80% of any value, the basis will just be 20% intrinsic and 80% enjoyment.

Posted Feb 21, 17 18:23 by Charles Epting (charlesepting)

Youth & Philately

I’d like to use my first post on this forum to address some of the points made by John B., Steven F., and others regarding “young” collectors:

I’m 23 years old, an alumnus of the APS’s Young Philatelic Leaders Fellowship, and one of the younger people in the US to be in the stamp business full-time (with H.R. Harmer). Interestingly, I had no interest in stamps until about four years ago; while I’ve always had the collector “gene” that is so often spoken of, I didn’t take notice of stamps until I needed a collection that was physically small (to fit in my dorm room) and inexpensive (initially, at least).

I am forever indebted to the YPLF, if for no other reason than it allowed me to go to my first national show (Hartford 2014, followed by Riverside and Grand Rapids the next year). These shows, and the people I met (several of whom are active members of this board), were the main reasons that philately became a dedicated hobby for me rather than just a passing fad. It was directly from the YPLF that I was able to attend MonacoPhil 2015, directly from MonacoPhil that I was able to intern at Heinrich Koehler for two months, and directly from Koehler that I came to work for H.R. Harmer. So I give full credit to the YPLF for opening the doors that allowed me to pursue philately as a career.

However, I agree with John’s point that perhaps it would be better to focus on collectors in their 30s-50s rather than investing heavily in the youth. I realize that I am the exception and not the rule in today’s generation; while several YPLF alums still collect or deal in their free time, many others have fallen by the wayside. This is no fault of the exceptional education staff at the APS. Rather, I believe such results are to be expected in today’s day and age. I can tell you that growing up, no amount of support or funding could have turned ANY of my peers into stamp collectors.

In short, over the past months I’ve come to realize that the hobby might be putting a disproportionate focus on attracting young collectors. The problem is not a lack of resources or money being invested into young collectors; rather, it is a larger cultural movement over the past few decades that has discouraged young people from collecting. I believe that for any progress to be made in the hobby, people must first come to accept that there will never be as many children collecting as there were in the 1930s and 40s. Times have changed, and so too must our expectations for the future of the hobby. Perhaps those who are middle-aged with steady disposable incomes should be our focus, rather than children and teenagers.

Posted Feb 21, 17 17:13 by steven frumkin (sfrumkin)

Thomas Routledge

RH:

Found this link online. Maybe you already did, too. Regardless, it might be of small help in taking your research a step or two further.

discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/2f5556b0-ff31-48a2-ad8d-92403bc248b8

Posted Feb 21, 17 15:22 by Richard Hilty (rhilty)

Who is Thomas Routledge

I have six covers with this "Care of Thomas Routledge" London on US covers going to Cognac. He isn't listed in Rowe. Was he a forwarding agent or just someone who helped move mail outside of the normal channels. There are no French markings on the covers except for one which has his name crossed out making me wonder if someone decided the letter was not legal??

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Posted Feb 21, 17 14:53 by Larry Bustillo (suburban)

last one

Rob,

If I were to guess I would say it part of an exceptional Black Jack collection. The collector has been collecting for well over 40 years and rarely lets anything go that he really wants. I did outbid him once on a usage to Ecuador with his stamp and mine, the only known for each value.

Posted Feb 21, 17 14:44 by Nick Kirke (nick kirke)

Last One

Rob, unfortunately not in my NYFM collection. I have this cancel but on a far inferior cover.

Posted Feb 21, 17 13:39 by Chad Snee (atgpac)

Rob Haeseler memorial party March 25 at APC

I am thinking of attending. Anyone else? I'd welcome the chance to stay with a fellow collector from the State College/Bellefonte, Pa., area. If I do go, I'd drive over early Saturday, attend the party that afternoon (scheduled for 2-5 p.m. at the American Philatelic Center), and return home the next morning. If you can put me up/put up with me for a night, please email me: [email protected]

Cheers, Chad Snee

Posted Feb 21, 17 13:38 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

last one

And, one last curiosity.  Anyone know where it is?

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